Caveman said:The random date when it started (when was it around 2001?), is what doesn't make sense.
So if you were unfortunate enough to be in a situation where you couldn't afford to be going home and away from that very date - whether you had been going every week since the 70's but had just got a mortgage or a family, or you were just a kid around 2001 (or worse not even born yet) - then you will always be behind the people who were just lucky to be of an age and money situation right at the time LPs were introduced.
These people are no more loyal than someone with fewer points who, if they were by chance in the same situation as the others, would have just as many points as them.
Anything else to do with LPs i don't have a problem with. I've got a good number of points and don't have to worry about things. But i don't feel i deserve to go to Old Trafford for a derby any more than a 17 year old blue who has no points because his parents have never been into football or have never had the money to buy tickets. But it's a fair-ish system in other ways is at least it stops tourists just taking up tickets (although the club don't help with that when they take away part of our away allocation and put them on sale to corporates!).
It's the 2001 thing. Why 2001? The first few years of the LP system were fantastic years to follow City; promotion under Keegan, last season at Maine Road, first season at the CoMS - they were really exciting compared to the late 90s. LPs weren't around in the late 90s though, when loyalty was really tested. So why 2001? Why are the people who were just in the right situation in 2001 - purely by chance and nothing else at all - so special?
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In the current situation, yes. As it's only been running about 11-12 years. But that won't work at all in another 15 years. People starting out from scratch in 15 years time will never have the chance to ever get to be in that situation.de niro said:Go to all the games possible for ten years whether we win or lose and you'll easily have enough points for any game.
They will if you get 4 x as many points for an away as you do now. This is what happens now compared to 2001/02 and the following early seasons.