Away tickets/segregation for better views.

anyoldblu said:
Bad choice of words there - plenty of people have conditions that mean they are not able to stand for an extended period.
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You’re right.
Apologies for any offence caused by what I said there - it’s a delicate subject and I certainly wasn’t intending to upset anyone.
 
bluemanchester said:
30 years ago people had diaries and address books, 20 years ago people had a filo fax. 15 years ago smart phones came along and now physical tickets are rare, so it definitely is possible, if the club are willing, to have a database of fans who want to sit. As an example as how it can be done take Goodison for example, I know Everton are moving, but it is a ground many people know. On the upper stand, if City have say 100 supporters who want to sit, they could be accomodated on the front few rows and told specifically it is for sitting, that way whole blocks are not ringfenced for sitting just the required number of seats for the people who want to sit. On the point of sitting where you want at away games. At Fulham on Sunday I took my grandson and his friend. His friend had a ticket away from us and they suggested he could just push in with us, I said no as it would be bad manners to push in where other people have paid for their seat. In front of me there was an argument going on over this pushing in issue and was only resolved when one of the young lads moved. As for the comment that away days are for standing, they are not, people stand for many reasons but it is not compulsory. Safe standing with the handrails certainly do help especially if people stay in their allocated seat. I have been going to away games since the early 60s and paid my dues, I have no intention of stopping yet, just looking at ways it could be more comfortable as I get older and I have previously said it may just be wishful thinking, but the technology is there to do something to accomodate everybody if the club are willing to go the extra mile to help. Do not confuse this post as a rant against standing, it is not.
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Funnily enough at Everton in the lower tier, they have about 15 rows of 4/5 seats next to the segregation fence where they don’t allow people to stand. De Bruyne’s missus and kid were in the away end just behind me and they moved over there, swapping with someone so they could sit.

If they had the inclination, they could do it.
 
I agree with the sentiment and it would certainly benefit my 60+ demographic who still represent a significant proportion of our traditional away support

I just harbour doubts over the way it would be policed and also the sincerity of some of my fellow supporters

At Leicester my seat was next to the gangway and at kick off there were 3 empty seats to my immediate right.

After 10 minutes a gang of at least half a dozen pissed-up lads came striding up the gangway looking completely lost.
They expected me to "budge-up" and got all arsey when I refused.

I then spent the rest of the First Half in my correct spot with 6 blues sharing the space for 3 supporters before they all fucked-off to the bar after 30 minutes

Perhaps that was just my fault for being awkward but I'm not convinced that this type of situation wouldn't happen even if was supposedly reserved for supporters preferring to sit.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
I agree with the sentiment and it would certainly benefit my 60+ demographic who still represent a significant proportion of our traditional away support

I just harbour doubts over the way it would be policed and also the sincerity of some of my fellow supporters

At Leicester my seat was next to the gangway and at kick off there were 3 empty seats to my immediate right.

After 10 minutes a gang of at least half a dozen pissed-up lads came striding up the gangway looking completely lost.
They expected me to "budge-up" and got all arsey when I refused.

I then spent the rest of the First Half in my correct spot with 6 blues sharing the space for 3 supporters before they all fucked-off to the bar after 30 minutes

Perhaps that was just my fault for being awkward but I'm not convinced that this type of situation wouldn't happen even if was supposedly reserved for supporters preferring to sit.
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I think your right regarding policing it. But why should you think you are the one being awkward, you applied for and got your ticket so are entitled to stay in your alloted seat. I just think it is bad manners to shove in and take up other supporters space by people who are so insecure they have to be with their mates.
 
bluemanchester said:
I think your right regarding policing it. But why should you think you are the one being awkward, you applied for and got your ticket so are entitled to stay in your alloted seat. I just think it is bad manners to shove in and take up other supporters space by people who are so insecure they have to be with their mates.
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Yeah you're right but some of these away games are like the Wild West just before kick off when dozens leave the concourse and just expect their seat to appear.

Sadly I've seen a few older folk get bullied into moving up
 
Alcatraz said:
Great post…..my grandson paid 115 for Wembley final only to have to stand on his seat for most of the game !
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There was an old guy near me, who paid £165 presumably, who spent the whole game sat sideways on his seat, watching the game on the screen behind the goal.
 
bluemanchester said:
Maybe it should be in ticket and travel but as it's the end of the season it won't get much viewing there. So, as an awayday fan, if I can get a ticket. My issue is as the older I get and the more vertically challenged I seem to get and dodgy knees I dont like standing at games but on away games there is no choice. With the height issue I always seem to be stood behind a giant or someone who has St Vitus dance syndrome. Why can't the club help out at grounds where fans can sit if they want by setting up a database of fans who if they want to sit can and fans who want to stand they can in grounds where this can be done.. I often see female fans near me who see little of the game because of fans standing. This is not a criticism of standing as most don't have a choice if someone on a front row stands then those behind have to. My suggestion would be a database used when tickets are allocated, so fans who are prepared to give the club personal details and request dedicated seating areas in away grounds can be accomodated in dedicated seating areas. Sometimes a whole block stands because people in the front row all stand. I am sure people who want to stand have no great desire to spoil the matchday experience for older, smaller or infirm fans. I know it would be extra work for the club but as with new regulations regarding attendance at home matches they can cope with the extra if they desire to.
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Ever considered buying a pair of Elton John type hidden heel shoes for short arses?
 
Gingers Dad said:
Standing up is part of being an away fan. Stand up, sing and back the team. If I wasn't able to stand at an away game I wouldn't go and leave it to those who could.
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I hope when you have been supporting city fot 60+ years you have people in front of you who are jumping up and down and you can't see a thing. Have abit of compation for us that have supported them through thick and thin for years
 
blue 1959 said:
I hope when you have been supporting city fot 60+ years you have people in front of you who are jumping up and down and you can't see a thing. Have abit of compation for us that have supported them through thick and thin for years
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Clues in the post you replied to
 
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