Balos sister

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

ok Im getting tired of hearing what a great player Mario is. I just dont get it. I have seen no evidence of this great potential. He did well in the cup semi and final but wasnt outstanding, was awful last weekend. I'm obviously missing something as i keep hearing he's a massive talent but...I know the but but dont get the former. Winding up the rags a wembley was class though and his one redeeming feature :)

Watch him tear Busquets a new one against spain this week. You know the guy who Barca used to replace Yaya.

Yep. I'm absolutely tired of people saying the maligned talent of Balotelli has been latent since/prior to his move to Manchester. If Rooney did what he did, he'd be the best young talent in the world. He's already a very good striker. We just have to wait and see whether he can truly be world class. He more than likely will be.

-- Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:21 pm --

Racism?

Christ, when I thought the paranoia on here couldn't get any worse, someone accuses the press of being racist. Officially heard it all now.

The racism that's shown in the press is a nuance that only the more astute people usually understand. I thought the person who originally posted "Ricster" was showing real perceptiveness in stating so.

However, I won't try to sway yours or anyone else's opinion because if you don't understand it now, you probably never will.

No, I know what racism is, I'm not as dumb as you think. But accusing the press of being racist is just plain stupid, especially considering Balotelli's behaviour even BEFORE he joined us:
He drove into a women's prison to 'have a look around'
Kicked a Swedish U21 player when he was on the floor, and sat on the pitch when he was sent off
Woke up in Brescia town centre arse naked while having a shower in the town centre fountain after a night-long bender
Threw tomatoes at a Serie A manager
Brought water balloons with him to a team meeting whilst still at Inter.

These are just some of the instances he was criticised for while in Italy. The fact is, he had a track record before he joined us. As everyone knows, controversy sells papers, so the press are obviously going to focus on a guy that moved to this country with all this on him already. Looking at his antics in Italy, it could be argued his behaviour has improved dramatically while in Italy.
So before you try patronising me concerning racism, learn the story. Opportunistic journalism, yes. Racist? Certainly not.

 

[zangatangring]

Racism?

Christ, when I thought the paranoia on here couldn't get any worse, someone accuses the press of being racist. Officially heard it all now.

The racism that's shown in the press is a nuance that only the more astute people usually understand. I thought the person who originally posted "Ricster" was showing real perceptiveness in stating so.

However, I won't try to sway yours or anyone else's opinion because if you don't understand it now, you probably never will.

No, I know what racism is, I'm not as dumb as you think. But accusing the press of being racist is just plain stupid, especially considering Balotelli's behaviour even BEFORE he joined us:
He drove into a women's prison to 'have a look around'
Kicked a Swedish U21 player when he was on the floor, and sat on the pitch when he was sent off
Woke up in Brescia town centre arse naked while having a shower in the town centre fountain after a night-long bender
Threw tomatoes at a Serie A manager
Brought water balloons with him to a team meeting whilst still at Inter.

These are just some of the instances he was criticised for while in Italy. The fact is, he had a track record before he joined us. As everyone knows, controversy sells papers, so the press are obviously going to focus on a guy that moved to this country with all this on him already. Looking at his antics in Italy, it could be argued his behaviour has improved dramatically while in Italy.
So before you try patronising me concerning racism, learn the story. Opportunistic journalism, yes. Racist? Certainly not.

I never ever insinuated that you were dumb. I don't think you are either.

You assume all the stories told about Balotelli from the tabloid press are true.... biggest mistake. That's lack of astuteness.

"Controversy sells papers."

Racism is controversial.

"Opportunistic journalism"

What better opportunity is there than discrimination? Trust me, I am right.

The press are just a conduit for society's nuances. Most would agree that the Italian's were racist towards Balo (they were).

 

[redmizzle]

No, I know what racism is, I'm not as dumb as you think. But accusing the press of being racist is just plain stupid, especially considering Balotelli's behaviour even BEFORE he joined us:
He drove into a women's prison to 'have a look around'
Kicked a Swedish U21 player when he was on the floor, and sat on the pitch when he was sent off
Woke up in Brescia town centre arse naked while having a shower in the town centre fountain after a night-long bender
Threw tomatoes at a Serie A manager
Brought water balloons with him to a team meeting whilst still at Inter.

These are just some of the instances he was criticised for while in Italy. The fact is, he had a track record before he joined us. As everyone knows, controversy sells papers, so the press are obviously going to focus on a guy that moved to this country with all this on him already. Looking at his antics in Italy, it could be argued his behaviour has improved dramatically while in Italy.
So before you try patronising me concerning racism, learn the story. Opportunistic journalism, yes. Racist? Certainly not.

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Not half as bad as you're making it sound is it? I bet if Balotelli was the Swedish player you'd accuse him of diving.

 

[Ricster]

Racism?

Christ, when I thought the paranoia on here couldn't get any worse, someone accuses the press of being racist. Officially heard it all now.

He's cast his rod, no way he means that.

Just incase you're not though, Ricster:

Was it racist when the papers went for Rio for not making his drugs test? That went on for months.

Was it racist when they went for Collymore because he too was a bit of a prick?

Was it racist when they lambasted Vieria for his spitting incident on Ruddock?

Was it racist when they hounded Diouf for his non-stop spitting incidents?

There are 2 similarities here. Balotelli and all of those named above are black, or of mixed race. Balotelli and all of those above have made complete twats of themselves at times. I know which similarity I am going to go for.

The only difference with Balotelli and those above is that he came for mega money but has so far failed to live up to his price tag on the pitch. Infact he's brought as much negative press to himself on the pitch as he has positive press and there's no point in going for his off the pitch stuff, as that's well documented. Ferdinand, Collymore, (at Liverpoo), and Vieira ALL lived up to their price tags. Diouf was just a fucking idiot, but an animal with it. Balotelli is just a bit of a dick head off the pitch however on the pitch he isn't fit to lace any of the other 3's boots..............yet.

Can you tell me what Balotelli has done that is on a par with the examples you have given? Cos i dont see any comparison's.

It was pretty well known Rio was taking Cocaine.

Collymore beat up a woman

Vieria and Diouf spitting is one of the most horrible acts in the game of football.

Mario has nowhere near done anything as harsh as those examples so comparing the situation's is a non starter for me.

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

The racism that's shown in the press is a nuance that only the more astute people usually understand. I thought the person who originally posted "Ricster" was showing real perceptiveness in stating so.

However, I won't try to sway yours or anyone else's opinion because if you don't understand it now, you probably never will.

No, I know what racism is, I'm not as dumb as you think. But accusing the press of being racist is just plain stupid, especially considering Balotelli's behaviour even BEFORE he joined us:
He drove into a women's prison to 'have a look around'
Kicked a Swedish U21 player when he was on the floor, and sat on the pitch when he was sent off
Woke up in Brescia town centre arse naked while having a shower in the town centre fountain after a night-long bender
Threw tomatoes at a Serie A manager
Brought water balloons with him to a team meeting whilst still at Inter.

These are just some of the instances he was criticised for while in Italy. The fact is, he had a track record before he joined us. As everyone knows, controversy sells papers, so the press are obviously going to focus on a guy that moved to this country with all this on him already. Looking at his antics in Italy, it could be argued his behaviour has improved dramatically while in Italy.
So before you try patronising me concerning racism, learn the story. Opportunistic journalism, yes. Racist? Certainly not.

I never ever insinuated that you were dumb. I don't think you are either.

You assume all the stories told about Balotelli from the tabloid press are true.... biggest mistake. That's lack of astuteness.

"Controversy sells papers."

Racism is controversial.

"Opportunistic journalism"

What better opportunity is there than discrimination? Trust me, I am right.

The press are just a conduit for society's nuances. Most would agree that the Italian's were racist towards Balo (they were).

Okay, I will give you the instance when a foreign black man misdemeanoured, but was not hounded out for it.
When Thierry Henry cheated on his English wife, it was quickly swept under the carpet with little comment. When people talk about his life, they will not talk about this. Could you please explain why?

 

[zangatangring]

The press are just a conduit for society's nuances. Most would agree that the Italian's were racist towards Balo (they were).

Okay, I will give you the instance when a foreign black man misdemeanoured, but was not hounded out for it.
When Thierry Henry cheated on his English wife, it was quickly swept under the carpet with little comment. When people talk about his life, they will not talk about this. Could you please explain why?

Read the last line of my quote and think about it....

 

[Anonymous]

Possibly one of the most insulting things to anyone who's ever suffered real racism in the real world is when lazy logic is used to apply the accusation of racism to situations which clearly don't merit it.

This is one of those occasions.

 

[zangatangring]

Possibly one of the most insulting things to anyone who's ever suffered real racism in the real world is when lazy logic is used to apply the accusation of racism to situations which clearly don't merit it.

This is one of those occasions.

No, what's even more insulting is when people downplay valid accusations of racism to those who perceive it justifiably.

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

The press are just a conduit for society's nuances. Most would agree that the Italian's were racist towards Balo (they were).

Okay, I will give you the instance when a foreign black man misdemeanoured, but was not hounded out for it.
When Thierry Henry cheated on his English wife, it was quickly swept under the carpet with little comment. When people talk about his life, they will not talk about this. Could you please explain why?

Read the last line of my quote and think about it....

Indeed the Italian fans were racist towards Balotelli. I cannot fairly judge whether the press were either, as I can't read Italian. But English fans are definitely not racist, so I struggle to see why you think a certain small pocket of society called the media is so xenophobic.

 

[zangatangring]

Okay, I will give you the instance when a foreign black man misdemeanoured, but was not hounded out for it.
When Thierry Henry cheated on his English wife, it was quickly swept under the carpet with little comment. When people talk about his life, they will not talk about this. Could you please explain why?

Read the last line of my quote and think about it....

Indeed the Italian fans were racist towards Balotelli. I cannot fairly judge whether the press were either, as I can't read Italian. But English fans are definitely not racist, so I struggle to see why you think a certain small pocket of society called the media is so xenophobic.

You almost got it. Read carefully....

 

[Anonymous]

Possibly one of the most insulting things to anyone who's ever suffered real racism in the real world is when lazy logic is used to apply the accusation of racism to situations which clearly don't merit it.

This is one of those occasions.

No, what's even more insulting is when people downplay valid accusations of racism to those who perceive it justifiably.

Your accusation isn't valid and your perception is therefore irrelevant. Like I said, very very insulting when the "is it because I iz black" routine is pulled out as a way to distract from the obvious shortcomings in Balotelli's character...

It's no wonder he's a 21 year old multimillionaire acting like Kevin and Perry when there are so many people around to justify his bullshit...

 

[Pigeonho]

Racism?

Christ, when I thought the paranoia on here couldn't get any worse, someone accuses the press of being racist. Officially heard it all now.

He's cast his rod, no way he means that.

Just incase you're not though, Ricster:

Was it racist when the papers went for Rio for not making his drugs test? That went on for months.

Was it racist when they went for Collymore because he too was a bit of a prick?

Was it racist when they lambasted Vieria for his spitting incident on Ruddock?

Was it racist when they hounded Diouf for his non-stop spitting incidents?

There are 2 similarities here. Balotelli and all of those named above are black, or of mixed race. Balotelli and all of those above have made complete twats of themselves at times. I know which similarity I am going to go for.

The only difference with Balotelli and those above is that he came for mega money but has so far failed to live up to his price tag on the pitch. Infact he's brought as much negative press to himself on the pitch as he has positive press and there's no point in going for his off the pitch stuff, as that's well documented. Ferdinand, Collymore, (at Liverpoo), and Vieira ALL lived up to their price tags. Diouf was just a fucking idiot, but an animal with it. Balotelli is just a bit of a dick head off the pitch however on the pitch he isn't fit to lace any of the other 3's boots..............yet.

Can you tell me what Balotelli has done that is on a par with the examples you have given? Cos i dont see any comparison's.

It was pretty well known Rio was taking Cocaine.

Collymore beat up a woman

Vieria and Diouf spitting is one of the most horrible acts in the game of football.

Mario has nowhere near done anything as harsh as those examples so comparing the situation's is a non starter for me.

So you were serious then. Astonishing. It's astonishing that you think he gets the press he gets because he's black.
I made the comparisons about the colour of their skin, not the offence. Those twats rightly got bad press as and when deserved, but in all honesty is the press Balotelli gets 'bad'? I would say no it's not. I would say that since he arrived here for the large fee we paid, he's done enough for the press to lick their lips at what story they can print next, but none of them are 'bad'. They simply portray Balotelli as a bell end, which he is. I have heard him described as a 'journalists dream', and the 'gift that keeps on giving'. It has nothing to do with race, the club he plays for or anything else, it is all down to the fact that he does daft things and those daft things fill snippets of newspapers, which in turn sell for money. That's all it is however there is one major thing missing which Balotelli could do to turn those snippets into double spreads about his latest man of the match, game winning performance. Sadly though we've seen one or two of those. We have also though seen shit performances and pitch side tantrums to more or less nullify any decent performance he has put in, and all that does is make the press focus on the other stuff he does.

It is all down to Balotelli. Not his colour, not his background, (yawn to that), and not his club. It is down to Balotelli to MAKE those journalists focus on what he can do on the pitch, and so far I have seen nothing, absolutely nothing to see that will be what we're reading about anytime soon.

Racist?!!

 

[zangatangring]

Possibly one of the most insulting things to anyone who's ever suffered real racism in the real world is when lazy logic is used to apply the accusation of racism to situations which clearly don't merit it.

This is one of those occasions.

No, what's even more insulting is when people downplay valid accusations of racism to those who perceive it justifiably.

Your accusation isn't valid and your perception is therefore irrelevant. Like I said, very very insulting when the "is it because I iz black" routine is pulled out as a way to distract from the obvious shortcomings in Balotelli's character...

It's no wonder he's a 21 year old multimillionaire acting like Kevin and Perry when there are so many people around to justify his bullshit...

Why is it that people always make such audacious statements without evidence? I presented a logical argument with progressive evidence. All you did is come out and say "This isn't racism." Unbelievable.

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

Possibly one of the most insulting things to anyone who's ever suffered real racism in the real world is when lazy logic is used to apply the accusation of racism to situations which clearly don't merit it.

This is one of those occasions.

No, what's even more insulting is when people downplay valid accusations of racism to those who perceive it justifiably.

As someone who has been subject to racial abuse in the past, I can assure you the media are not racist. Never have I, nor anyone else apart from you and Ricster, read an article on Balotelli and said "That's racist." If it was a campaign against his skin, then surely they would not print the positive stories about him, would they?

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

Possibly one of the most insulting things to anyone who's ever suffered real racism in the real world is when lazy logic is used to apply the accusation of racism to situations which clearly don't merit it.

This is one of those occasions.

No, what's even more insulting is when people downplay valid accusations of racism to those who perceive it justifiably.

Your accusation isn't valid and your perception is therefore irrelevant. Like I said, very very insulting when the "is it because I iz black" routine is pulled out as a way to distract from the obvious shortcomings in Balotelli's character...

It's no wonder he's a 21 year old multimillionaire acting like Kevin and Perry when there are so many people around to justify his bullshit...

It'd be heartening if people put as much vigour into combating discrimination and prejudice that is present in every day life and is a constant truth for many as they do into attempting to argue against an immature and childish man-boy (who is even labelled as such by those who know him best) and to dress him being reported as such as some sort of horrendous discrimination.

You are talking about a press that sees a bizarre character and someone who regularly seems to think he is in a war against the world, whilst failing to live up to the hype (some of it self penned) and someone who is acknowledged as a bizarrre and frustrating character by his own manager and team mates. And he is being reported as such, in true tabloid, exagerated fashion.

What planet are people on if they don't realise that such a fool is manna from heaven for UK tabloids, regardless of colour, background or nationality.

If they could point to another player who has a similar record of such bizarre behaviour and a failure to justify his own billing as the second best player in the world then there might be a point.

Comparisons to the criminal antics of Gerrard or Collymore or the likes of Rooney or Ronaldo are hardly valid as they are reported on in a totally different manner. None of them are setting themselves up to be reported on as this cartoonish man-child who behaves like a spoilt teenager.

The easy ride that the likes of Gerrard and Rooney get is a disgrace but they are in a totally different context to Balotelli as their stories aren't part of a 'Mad Mario' style character's bizarre adventures and a reputation he has brought on himself.

The way some go on you'd think he was reported on as being some sort of hugely evil criminal. He isn't. He is reported on as being a childish idiot who doesn't do it on the pitch and is a cause of massive frustration to his club as he shows no signs of the professionalism and commitment required.

 

[zangatangring]

Let's just agree to disagree. Our respective opinions are far too vehement. It's obvious none of us will give way with the whole racism debate.



Let's focus our energy on matters regarding Balotelli's talent. I think that it truly is only the supreme idiots who think he isn't a very good striker.

Definitely hasn't established himself as a bonafide world class striker though. Also, the 'potential label' can be irrespective of age. Dzeko has much potential to be a world class Center Forward. Drogba had the potential to be a world class center forward at 24!

Balotelli's situation is that he is now presented with the opportunity to hone his talent and show the world what he can do. Any time now.....

 

[Pigeonho]

Let's just agree to disagree. Our respective opinions are far too vehement. It's obvious none of us will give way with the whole racism debate.



Let's focus our energy on matters regarding Balotelli's talent. I think that it truly is only the supreme idiots who think he isn't a very good striker.

Definitely hasn't established himself as a bonafide world class striker though. Also, the 'potential label' can be irrespective of age. Dzeko has much potential to be a world class Center Forward. Drogba had the potential to be a world class center forward at 24!

Balotelli's situation is that he is now presented with the opportunity to hone his talent and show the world what he can do. Any time now.....

The gulf from where Mario is now and being World Class is huge. Aguero is more near to being World Class than Balotelli is, and yes he might be a couple of years older but I would say it's purely down to the fact that he puts his jersey on and plays the game with everything he has to give. Balotelli doesn't do anything like that. He is nowhere near World Class at the minute, infact its an insult to those World Class players to mention his name in the same sentence to be honest.

 

[zangatangring]

Let's just agree to disagree. Our respective opinions are far too vehement. It's obvious none of us will give way with the whole racism debate.



Let's focus our energy on matters regarding Balotelli's talent. I think that it truly is only the supreme idiots who think he isn't a very good striker.

Definitely hasn't established himself as a bonafide world class striker though. Also, the 'potential label' can be irrespective of age. Dzeko has much potential to be a world class Center Forward. Drogba had the potential to be a world class center forward at 24!

Balotelli's situation is that he is now presented with the opportunity to hone his talent and show the world what he can do. Any time now.....

The gulf from where Mario is now and being World Class is huge. Aguero is more near to being World Class than Balotelli is, and yes he might be a couple of years older but I would say it's purely down to the fact that he puts his jersey on and plays the game with everything he has to give. Balotelli doesn't do anything like that. He is nowhere near World Class at the minute, infact its an insult to those World Class players to mention his name in the same sentence to be honest.

Aguero is most probably in the top 10 strikers in the world....

Balotelli is certainly closer than most in regards to being world class. For goodness sakes, how many people around his age are closer? 5? No more than 12 surely?

 

[Pigeonho]

Let's just agree to disagree. Our respective opinions are far too vehement. It's obvious none of us will give way with the whole racism debate.



Let's focus our energy on matters regarding Balotelli's talent. I think that it truly is only the supreme idiots who think he isn't a very good striker.

Definitely hasn't established himself as a bonafide world class striker though. Also, the 'potential label' can be irrespective of age. Dzeko has much potential to be a world class Center Forward. Drogba had the potential to be a world class center forward at 24!

Balotelli's situation is that he is now presented with the opportunity to hone his talent and show the world what he can do. Any time now.....

The gulf from where Mario is now and being World Class is huge. Aguero is more near to being World Class than Balotelli is, and yes he might be a couple of years older but I would say it's purely down to the fact that he puts his jersey on and plays the game with everything he has to give. Balotelli doesn't do anything like that. He is nowhere near World Class at the minute, infact its an insult to those World Class players to mention his name in the same sentence to be honest.

Aguero is most probably in the top 10 strikers in the world....

Balotelli is certainly closer than most in regards to being world class. For goodness sakes, how many people around his age are closer? 5? No more than 12 surely?

When you think about it, there is a distinct shortage of world class strikers, more so than any other period I can remember. When I think of a team I would line up, Baloltelli doesn't even enter my head, and thats because he has never put a shift in to make him etched in my head, perhaps other than the semi. He has however put in alot of stinkingly rotten performances and when I think of Balotelli I think of a petulant little arse who cares more about his angry pout being on camera than he does shifting his entire game up a notch and actually doing something half-memorable. If I was a player in that dressing room I would fall out with him regularly, especially when he then tries being the class clown. It's no wonder Toure (Yaya) gets pissed off with him, because he must just look at him and think 'ok Mario, trip me up, arse about as much as you want, but put a fucking shift in because you are pissing me off with your none-entity performances'. It's written all over his face.
When we signed Balotelli I was in the local and it hit the SSN yellow bar. The United fans in there were like 'fuck, he's a player', and me and my mate went about getting pissed, pissed in the thought that just a few years earlier we were almost suicidal at the fact Steed Malbranque didn't even bat an eyelid at joining us, we were that poor. Fast forward a few years and we have what I then deemed to be a hell of a coup. Inter Milans star prospect. That was just over a year ago and he has literally done nothing to make me care less if he was sold tomorrow. He is a myth and I stand by my quote that when he should be in his prime he will be lining up in a two-bob team with commentators regularly mentioning his name when discussing a potentially flawed player. He doesn't have it in his head to fulfil the potential I once thought he had.

 

[VinceYoungisaBLUE]

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