BBC licence fee

[BobKowalski]

I love how you now trivialise it all, but one last time. The BBC are under fire Bob,
because THEY, not me you, or anyone else, have pandered to some foreign woke lefty, and decided to, at first not sing the songs, then concede a tad, and said they'll do them, amongst other songs, but with no lyrics. They then come out with the ridiculous defence of coronavirus not allowing singing, whilst having no problem with the limited choralists singing other stuff.
But please yourself, the majority are railing against it, and it will damage them even more.

I‘m trivialising it? You are melting over a ‘foreign woke leftie’ for the crime of having an opinion on a fucking song. I mean, hello?

And in other news we sacked off NI, allowed the economic writ of the EU to run in UK sovereign territory and Scotland nationalism is feeding off our inability to pull the country together.

Jeez.

 

[BobKowalski]

No it still is. The Russians attacked our country with chemical weapons. The BBC showed exactly how terrifying that actually is with The Salisbury Poisonings. That was watched around the world and forms global opinions.

The BBC isn't going anywhere, we need it, I can understand people not wanting to pay for it and it would be good to opt out, but I think those who do still pay will be fucked off to see non paying people still using the bbc (because they do like portions of it afterall - they just don't like the political leaning )

Yeah, but the songs, mate. We have to worry about the songs that *checks notes* are still being played. A full blown crisis. No idea how we will stagger on. Doomed. Etc, etc.

 

[Fame Monster]

No it still is. The Russians attacked our country with chemical weapons. The BBC showed exactly how terrifying that actually is with The Salisbury Poisonings. That was watched around the world and forms global opinions.

The BBC isn't going anywhere, we need it, I can understand people not wanting to pay for it and it would be good to opt out, but I think those who do still pay will be fucked off to see non paying people still using the bbc (because they do like portions of it afterall - they just don't like the political leaning )

I think we should have something similar to arts or sports grants given to different channels or production companies to make TV on British issues.

The BBC has become complacent with its near monopoly on public funding hence why it's become bold enough to push its politics. However, it does still make some important TV that might not get made without public money so I think a grant system where different channels can compete for funding is a good alternative.

 

[BobKowalski]

He was asked in an interview.

Yeah, and the pandering **** did what all pandering cunts do and that’s pander. Didn’t he start off by saying “If it’s true”, well you’re the fucking PM so find out if it’s true first, pandering ****.

 

[Ban-jani]

Yeah, and the pandering **** did what all pandering cunts do and that’s pander. Didn’t he start off by saying “If it’s true”, well you’re the fucking PM so find out if it’s true first, pandering ****.

He’s spot on there but he is a pandering ****, just a shame he’s pandering to metropolitan liberals.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I quite understand the arguments for getting rid of / defending the BBC, but those making them the loudest appear to be rival broadcasters for the most part. While appreciate they feel they are competing against an unfairly state-subsidised corporation, I very much doubt their motivation is to provide better quality output, or put that £157 a year back in my pocket. Nearly everyone seems to think the BBC is biased against their views, which would actually suggest they are getting the balance right in the main.

 

[blueinsa]

Yeah, and the pandering **** did what all pandering cunts do and that’s pander. Didn’t he start off by saying “If it’s true”, well you’re the fucking PM so find out if it’s true first, pandering ****.

I thought he said what the majority of us think.

 

[BobKowalski]

I thought he said what the majority of us think.

On what? A manufactured story? You think the pandering **** would be more concerned about getting the economy back on track, getting kids back to school safely or indeed making sure we have enough giant lorry parks up and down the land.

Instead he spaffs off over a fucking playlist. Christ sake, we had someone dying of malnutrition next to their baby, but, no, let’s worry about whether we are getting all verses to Rule Britannia instead.

#allsongsmatter

 

[blueinsa]

On what? A manufactured story? You think the pandering **** would be more concerned about getting the economy back on track, getting kids back to school safely or indeed making sure we have enough giant lorry parks up and down the land.

Instead he spaffs off over a fucking playlist. Christ sake, we had someone dying of malnutrition next to their baby, but, no, let’s worry about whether we are getting all verses to Rule Britannia instead.

#allsongsmatter

As ever Bob, you're the last off the battlefield and its heroic n all that but the vast majority of your troops have realised this game is up and fucked off.

get on the fucking chopper mate....its about to leave.

 

[Vicious111]

yet the top 3 watched TV channels last quarter of 2019 were BBC1,2 AND 4 - Thats not people being forced to watch that is people choosing to pay and watch.

For a similar price to watch Netflix produces a fraction of hours of home made TV hours to what just the BBC news dept does. Just the News. You are comparing apples with paperclips there.

You commercialise the BBC then the existing advertising post is spread further and more thinly so none of them win but bear in mind YOUR OWN view that the BBC news is biased has no basis in any proof and is merely because they don't report what you want them to.

Reducing the funding to the BBC see's the end of so much output that you no doubt enjoy now and will miss when its gone - there will be no getting that back. Freeview would struggle as the BBC contributes, Britbox, local radio would be decimated...how much damage to output do you want just so you get FOX News GB?

Doesn't matter how many people watch it. I don't watch it, yet I am forced to pay for it. And Netflix etc has programmes that interest me. The only TV I've watched on the BBC in the last 5 years was Line of Duty on iplayer. So I don't 'clearly enjoy' it. You just made a baseless assumption

And you clearly don't know much on BBC's reporting in Scotland. The Ofcom complaint numbers and protests as a result of the bias are something you are obviously unfamiliar with. Thats not opinion, that is fact. Do a bit of research on the matter.

So yes, get rid of it. Daylight robbery that people have to pay for such a service.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Doesn't matter how many people watch it. I don't watch it, yet I am forced to pay for it. And Netflix etc has programmes that interest me. The only TV I've watched on the BBC in the last 5 years was Line of Duty on iplayer. So I don't 'clearly enjoy' it. You just made a baseless assumption

And you clearly don't know much on BBC's reporting in Scotland. The Ofcom complaint numbers and protests as a result of the bias are something you are obviously unfamiliar with. Thats not opinion, that is fact. Do a bit of research on the matter.

So yes, get rid of it. Daylight robbery that people have to pay for such a service.

I have posted on this thread the attachment showing BARB figures for most popular channels - those are facts not assumptions.

The funding it does to Britbox and the like would be cut as revenues fell. Support from the BBC would like as not be unsustainable. Its also a fact that ad revenue is falling - I did research it - look at recent statements from ITV and C4 - ITV profits are decimated - you won't increase the amount of advertising nor the amount they can charge for it by simply creating more space to show it - the damage would be across the board.

From what you say is you don't want to pay. If you have only watched one show in 5 years get rid of your TV and don't pay for a license at all - doesn't look like you will miss it.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

How much should the bbc charge? What is a fair price considering we pay what we pay for Sky, for Netflix etc.

So lets assume they privatise it, are we really going to then pay £300 - £700 per year?

Seems crazy to me.

Just let those that dont want to pay for it to not pay for it. They can miss out on all the stuff it produces but at least they dont have to listen to BBC politics. Nose and face comes to mind tbh

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Doesn't matter how many people watch it. I don't watch it, yet I am forced to pay for it. And Netflix etc has programmes that interest me. The only TV I've watched on the BBC in the last 5 years was Line of Duty on iplayer. So I don't 'clearly enjoy' it. You just made a baseless assumption

And you clearly don't know much on BBC's reporting in Scotland. The Ofcom complaint numbers and protests as a result of the bias are something you are obviously unfamiliar with. Thats not opinion, that is fact. Do a bit of research on the matter.

So yes, get rid of it. Daylight robbery that people have to pay for such a service.

Dont pay? Whats your problem?

Do I need a TV licence?

If you watch 'live' TV, you need a TV licence; there's no avoiding it. But if you watch catch-up without using BBC iPlayer, you could ditch it & save £100s.

www.moneysavingexpert.com

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Or do you want to just cancel the bbc for everyone?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I‘m trivialising it? You are melting over a ‘foreign woke leftie’ for the crime of having an opinion on a fucking song. I mean, hello?

And in other news we sacked off NI, allowed the economic writ of the EU to run in UK sovereign territory and Scotland nationalism is feeding off our inability to pull the country together.

Jeez.

This foreign woke leftie has just used her platform to trash our traditions, courtesy of the Beeb, which is fine by you, naturally.
Oh, and you lost the EU vote, it's gone, over, so your views on that are just a meaningless deflection.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

How much should the bbc charge? What is a fair price considering we pay what we pay for Sky, for Netflix etc.

So lets assume they privatise it, are we really going to then pay £300 - £700 per year?

Seems crazy to me.

Just let those that dont want to pay for it to not pay for it. They can miss out on all the stuff it produces but at least they dont have to listen to BBC politics. Nose and face comes to mind tbh

This is a fair point, let those who don't want to pay for it, not pay for it.
You do this by decriminalising it, and if it's as respected as everyone says it is there will be no problem for the BBC, everyone who wants to will gladly fork out to hear the next race obsessed lefty no mark advocating what else we should ban or eradicate.
The fly in the ointment is the fact that millions will sack it off, in fact many people are now doing that, and these idiots that now run the BBC just don't realise that the vast majority of Brits won't put up with too much more of this,
and eventually, the decriminalisation will come.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Dont pay? Whats your problem?

Do I need a TV licence?

If you watch 'live' TV, you need a TV licence; there's no avoiding it. But if you watch catch-up without using BBC iPlayer, you could ditch it & save £100s.

www.moneysavingexpert.com

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Or do you want to just cancel the bbc for everyone?

he pays so he can moan about being fleeced.

 

[bluethrunthru]

next race obsessed lefty no mark advocating what else we should ban or eradicate.

that'll be the station who has Kuenessberg living and breathing every Johnson word? The one that platforms JRM and has a man who represents no party on nearly every political programme Nigel Farage - that left leaning one?

 

[Vicious111]

I have posted on this thread the attachment showing BARB figures for most popular channels - those are facts not assumptions.

The funding it does to Britbox and the like would be cut as revenues fell. Support from the BBC would like as not be unsustainable. Its also a fact that ad revenue is falling - I did research it - look at recent statements from ITV and C4 - ITV profits are decimated - you won't increase the amount of advertising nor the amount they can charge for it by simply creating more space to show it - the damage would be across the board.

From what you say is you don't want to pay. If you have only watched one show in 5 years get rid of your TV and don't pay for a license at all - doesn't look like you will miss it.

I have watched about one show on the BBC. I watch quite alot of football and NFL on Sky. I watch plenty of Netflix shows, Disney+ and movies. Stuff that I choose to watch and pay for. Not some, what I know to be exceptionally biased nonsense such as BBC News, Question Time or anything else of that sort. I don't mind the seniors having theirs paid for with our taxes, but I sure as hell should not have to pay for something that does not interest me. It would be like me being forced to pay for ballet lessons. I have no interest in ballet lessons, why on earth would I pay for them?

I am not questioning your facts on viewing figures. I am questioning your assumptions on BBC biased being baseless and my opinion, which is very much not the case. Not to mention that I am sick fed up of the identity politics tripe it seems to endlessly spout out like a big fucking polluting factory. They revel in giving some of these hard-line left wingers a platform to demand that we ignore biology and embrace 99 genders etc. etc. And that's me, a 'liberal'.

 

[Vicious111]

that'll be the station who has Kuenessberg living and breathing every Johnson word? The one that platforms JRM and has a man who represents no party on nearly every political programme Nigel Farage - that left leaning one?

And I quote: "bear in mind YOUR OWN view that the BBC news is biased has no basis in any proof and is merely because they don't report what you want them to."

Make your mind up?

Dont pay? Whats your problem?

Do I need a TV licence?

If you watch 'live' TV, you need a TV licence; there's no avoiding it. But if you watch catch-up without using BBC iPlayer, you could ditch it & save £100s.

www.moneysavingexpert.com

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Or do you want to just cancel the bbc for everyone?

Don't really fancy getting myself a £1000 fine for not paying for some shite robbing corporation for watching some live sport, do you?

 

[bluethrunthru]

And I quote: "bear in mind YOUR OWN view that the BBC news is biased has no basis in any proof and is merely because they don't report what you want them to."

Make your mind up?

Look you hate the BBC. You are trying to force your minority view - again I refer you to the viewing figures, many people would greatly miss the BBC - If you are unhappy about paying for a service you don't use then as has been shown to you don't pay it if you are not a user you aren't compelled to - that way one little flame of your inner anger will be extinguished.