Bert Trautmann

[lunebleu]

Bert's got a new autobiography out and apparently he's signing copies at Waterson's on Deansgate[tomorrow?]-----I've seen him play and he was THE best,though older dudes might say Frank Swift was.
However the point of this thread is that, having read 'The Observer' review of the book,it would seen Bert is a somewhat unrepentant Nazi. He was a paratrooper so obviously a hard geezer, but according to the review he thought National Socialism was the best thing since sliced Bratwurst. If this is true[and i will buy the book]----it's a bit myth destroying of the 'German gentleman' image and, sadly a hero of mine. Let's hope the Observer is talking a load of Bollocks1

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

its not tomorrow, its sat 11th, dont all you fuckers go, ill never get one signed.

Meet Manchester City legend
Bert Trautmann
Trautmann's Journey: From Hitler Youth to FA Cup Legend
WATERSTONE'S MANCHESTER DEANSG
Saturday, 10 April 2010, 1:00PM

The celebrated Manchester City goalkeeper will be making a rare UK appearance to sign copies of his authorised biography. Signing, no ticket required.

 

[Sheikh Django]

I've read something more along the lines of him saying he had no reason not to support National Socialism back in the day. He was young and impressionable and all the cool kids were at it.

 

[lunebleu]

I've read something more along the lines of him saying he had no reason not to support National Socialism back in the day. He was young and impressionable and all the cool kids were at it.

I agree but,according to the review, he's not modified his attitude about the general aim of the Nazi's[unlike most mature Germans]---Like i said The Observer could be shit-stirring !

 

[BTH]

Bert's got a new autobiography out and apparently he's signing copies at Waterson's on Deansgate[tomorrow?]-----I've seen him play and he was THE best,though older dudes might say Frank Swift was.
However the point of this thread is that, having read 'The Observer' review of the book,it would seen Bert is a somewhat unrepentant Nazi. He was a paratrooper so obviously a hard geezer, but according to the review he thought National Socialism was the best thing since sliced Bratwurst. If this is true[and i will buy the book]----it's a bit myth destroying of the 'German gentleman' image and, sadly a hero of mine. Let's hope the Observer is talking a load of Bollocks1

I read this one in The Grauniad on Saturday...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/apr/03/trautmanns-journey-catrine-clay-review

But here's the one you mentioned from The Obs...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/04/trautmanns-journey-from-hitler-youth

 

[lunebleu]

Bert's got a new autobiography out and apparently he's signing copies at Waterson's on Deansgate[tomorrow?]-----I've seen him play and he was THE best,though older dudes might say Frank Swift was.
However the point of this thread is that, having read 'The Observer' review of the book,it would seen Bert is a somewhat unrepentant Nazi. He was a paratrooper so obviously a hard geezer, but according to the review he thought National Socialism was the best thing since sliced Bratwurst. If this is true[and i will buy the book]----it's a bit myth destroying of the 'German gentleman' image and, sadly a hero of mine. Let's hope the Observer is talking a load of Bollocks1

I read this one in The Grauniad on Saturday...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/apr/03/trautmanns-journey-catrine-clay-review

But here's the one you mentioned from The Obs...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/04/trautmanns-journey-from-hitler-youth

Thanks---it illustrates what i'm saying.

 

[bluemanc]

Meet Manchester City legend Bert Trautmann
The celebrated Manchester City goalkeeper will be making a rare UK appearance to sign copies of his authorised biography
Trautmann's Journey: From Hitler Youth to FA Cup Legend by Catrine Clay
WATERSTONE'S MANCHESTER DEANSGATE
Saturday, 10 April 2010, 1:00PM
Book signing, no ticket required.
Further details: 0161 837 3000



You can read the book synopsis here:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.waterstones.com/waterston...do?sku=6856366" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.waterstones.com/waterston...do?sku=6856366</a>

 

[bluenova]

I feel ashamed for laughing out loud at such a serious topic...but in the comments under the Observer article was the following from GalileeBlue:

Simon

What a terrible article. You have constantly used your 'City Supporter' stance whilst bad-mouthing, slaying and generally rubbishing every aspect of the club you claim to support. With 'fans' like you, who needs enemies. I myself was once a member of the Junior Blues - does this make me a fascist?

I have no idea where he linked the Junior Blues with the Hitler Youth but I'm pretty sure they had differing aims.

 

[piffy on a rock bun]

I feel ashamed for laughing out loud at such a serious topic...but in the comments under the Observer article was the following from GalileeBlue:

Simon

What a terrible article. You have constantly used your 'City Supporter' stance whilst bad-mouthing, slaying and generally rubbishing every aspect of the club you claim to support. With 'fans' like you, who needs enemies. I myself was once a member of the Junior Blues - does this make me a fascist?

I have no idea where he linked the Junior Blues with the Hitler Youth but I'm pretty sure they had differing aims.

Not to sure but I seem to remember when I was a member of the junior blues they were actually aiming for world domination with swales as the leader?

 

[whp.blue]

I've read something more along the lines of him saying he had no reason not to support National Socialism back in the day. He was young and impressionable and all the cool kids were at it.

time served Hitler Youth that is why he was made an elite paratrooper
only the finest true nazi men made it into the para's