Best Union?

[totallywired]

they deserve what their dividends pay, all of it. they are the ones that have invested their own money in order to give the mard arse union and its puppet workforce a living.

are they thanked? no.

The railway companies are still subsidised by the government, so it is the taxpayers, US that are bankrollig their dividends. If you don`t know what you are talking about then say nowt.

thats another thing, thank goodness for virgin trains and the general deregulation of our transport industry. trains are clean, comfy and reliable nowadays.

You don`t have it in you to mention the role of the workers in the rail industry, no suprise there. Who do you think keeps the job going, the managers? don`t think so. With the money put in by the taxpayer in the form of subsidies and taken out by directors in bonuses and large pyoffs the railways would be much better than they are. The East coast mainline which is the most modern and fastest on the network had to be bailed out with 100`s of million pound payments because the then franchise holder, National Express, couldn`t run it properly and was actually running at a loss. Managers with no rail experience totally to blame. Thats in the official report. The real truth of privatisation is numerous train crashes where many have perished, due to network rail bringing the dergulated practices of the building site onto yhe rails. Hundreds of managers and directors taking large payoffs for failure then using their network to start at another rail company on a big salery and contribute next to nothing. As somebody who attends meetings as a safety rep for train drivers , it is still going on. Your taxes amd mine are being wasted on a layer of talentless people.

 

[stonerblue]

they deserve what their dividends pay, all of it. they are the ones that have invested their own money in order to give the mard arse union and its puppet workforce a living.

are they thanked? no.

The railway companies are still subsidised by the government, so it is the taxpayers, US that are bankrollig their dividends. If you don`t know what you are talking about then say nowt.

thats another thing, thank goodness for virgin trains and the general deregulation of our transport industry. trains are clean, comfy and reliable nowadays.

Now i know you're taking the piss..

 

[tidyman]

Obviously some people on this thread are just trying to get people at it but those with genuine anti union views seem to be contradicting themselves a bit.

It started off with them saying the unions are a complete waste of time who do nothing but take members subs and then force them into unneccesary strikes but now the biggest complaint seems to be that the unions have secured some people undeserved bonuses for doing fuck all.

Seems like maybe jealousy is some peoples real angle.

 

[Bill]

The railway companies are still subsidised by the government, so it is the taxpayers, US that are bankrollig their dividends. If you don`t know what you are talking about then say nowt.

thats another thing, thank goodness for virgin trains and the general deregulation of our transport industry. trains are clean, comfy and reliable nowadays.

Now i know you're taking the piss..

I use the train wherever possible. For all the reasons above. As I say they are clean and reliable, ok can be pricey at times but they have to make a profit.

 

[law74]

So the militant right seem to think that public transport employees are not entitled to take a holiday with their children now......cause that was one of the reasons why they got a bonus payment, otherwise as in every other industry in the UK people would have taken some of their holiday entitlement (won by the Trade Union Movement) to take some much needed and deserved time off during the summer.
Will they all be allowed two weeks off as soon as the olympics ends?
Will they fuck

 

[nelsons willie]

thats another thing, thank goodness for virgin trains and the general deregulation of our transport industry. trains are clean, comfy and reliable nowadays.

Now i know you're taking the piss..

I use the train wherever possible. For all the reasons above. As I say they are clean and reliable, ok can be pricey at times but they have to make a profit.

i suppose it depends on ones own experience.on a banking thread everybody was complaining about santander.ive never had ANY problem with them so i think they are good.when i first moved to devon i started a new job.the train was late 3 times in 5 days at 6-20am and twice going home.my daughter got to torquay station on her way back to manc only to be told they had cancelled the connection,tough shit.i say they are bad.now buses,them big orange things with smelly folk on ,down there are good.its only the tourists who make them shit.

 

[Bill]

Now i know you're taking the piss..

I use the train wherever possible. For all the reasons above. As I say they are clean and reliable, ok can be pricey at times but they have to make a profit.

i suppose it depends on ones own experience.on a banking thread everybody was complaining about santander.ive never had ANY problem with them so i think they are good.when i first moved to devon i started a new job.the train was late 3 times in 5 days at 6-20am and twice going home.my daughter got to torquay station on her way back to manc only to be told they had cancelled the connection,tough shit.i say they are bad.now buses,them big orange things with smelly folk on ,down there are good.its only the tourists who make them shit.

santander scare me to death, they take over the running of my shop account soon. seem arseoles tbh.

 

[cyberblue]

lets be honest fucking non. nowt but whinging troublemakers. they rip workers off by taking a cut out of their wage then strike and the workers get fuck all.
i'd never join a union, i can look after number one. which really what life is all about.

Maybe you're on a wind up or maybe not but either way there are a lot of people who think like that.

I would have a bit ( but not a lot) of respect for the first non member, who after the union had negotiated them a pay rise or improved conditions, informed their employer that they would like to stick to their old rate of pay, as they wouldn't want to be benefitting from anything a union they don't belong to had negotiated.

They moan like fuck to get rises and when the firm say we can't do it the unions bring the firm to a standstill, risking the company as a whole. Eventually the firm crack and give them the rises, six months down the line there are redundancies as the firm is now struggling. Well done the union.
Who loses their jobs? Not the fucking union leaders that's for sure.

The union members are not thick just ordinory workers it is there descision to strike or not to strike no -one elses .the senario you created is just pie in the sky

 

[cyberblue]

join a union you know it makes sense.

assuming you are a puppet.

Or dont and let managment walk and shit all over you..

Management are there because they are the brains of the operation.

If it wanst for the unions they would shit all over the workers .would you like to see the workers of England have the same pay & conditions & know Health & Saftey laws like the workers of the workers in China or India or or for that matter dozens of other countries .would you alow your relatives to work down a mine with litle regard to there saftey for a few dollars a week

 

[stonerblue]

thats another thing, thank goodness for virgin trains and the general deregulation of our transport industry. trains are clean, comfy and reliable nowadays.

Now i know you're taking the piss..

I use the train wherever possible. For all the reasons above. As I say they are clean and reliable, ok can be pricey at times but they have to make a profit.

So it's ok for the shareholders to make a profit but the workers having to go on strike to get extra pay for the extra work forced on them is wrong?