Betting odds watch

[manchester blue]

I'm thousands up betting on city. My first ever bets were 17/18 on 80 goals, 90 goals and 104 goals. I won £1200 from £40. Never looked back. I've got £10 on Haaland to score 40 EPL goals at 200-1. Sometimes people who go to the ground and watch the football do know more than bookies who get their info from the media

I got 40 at 250/1 on the day he signed!

Also bet on 33 and 35 at lesser odds. Already covered my bets by winning three headed PL goals at evens! I thought that was a cert but held back on stake just to cover my outlay.

 

[shemnel]

I'm thousands up betting on city. My first ever bets were 17/18 on 80 goals, 90 goals and 104 goals. I won £1200 from £40. Never looked back. I've got £10 on Haaland to score 40 EPL goals at 200-1. Sometimes people who go to the ground and watch the football do know more than bookies who get their info from the media

200/1 ? interesting. who with?

 

[xgorton]

200/1 ? interesting. who with?

I think he would have got those odds start of season,no way now.

 

[shemnel]

I think he would have got those odds start of season,no way now.

i gathered that :D

 

[Manchester33]

I'm thousands up betting on city. My first ever bets were 17/18 on 80 goals, 90 goals and 104 goals. I won £1200 from £40. Never looked back. I've got £10 on Haaland to score 40 EPL goals at 200-1. Sometimes people who go to the ground and watch the football do know more than bookies who get their info from the media

The bookies don't get their odds from the media - it's nonsense to presume a company that profits hundreds of millions of £'s pa (like Bet365) would do that. They are incredibly sophisticated and essentially every price you see is a poor value when compared to the actual odds.

 

[hammocity]

this. people who bet delude themselves they know more than the odds makers. its maths and they win.

Used to be maths, knowledge and intuition, these days you can add algorithms into the mix. Plus if you have multiple betting accounts the big bookmakers are owned by a few companies so they have all your info linked.

Entain own Ladbroke, Coral, SportingBet and other International brands

888 own the group of that name plus William Hill and other International brands

Flutter own Skybet, Paddy Power, Betfair and big US brand Fanduel plus other International brands.

If you’re a winning punter on one and you are barred or restricted there’s not much chance you will get away with moving to another bookmaker under the same holding company and become a winner (especially through arbitrage betting) again.

 

[hammocity]

The bookies don't get their odds from the media - it's nonsense to presume a company that profits hundreds of millions of £'s pa (like Bet365) would do that. They are incredibly sophisticated and essentially every price you see is a poor value when compared to the actual odds.

Generally about a 10% margin added in, but as you say they now use sophisticated methods whereby in the past it was all done manually but it was still as accurate but a lot slower and open to betting coups as the lines of communication were telephone land lines.

 

[Stephen230]

The bookies don't get their odds from the media - it's nonsense to presume a company that profits hundreds of millions of £'s pa (like Bet365) would do that. They are incredibly sophisticated and essentially every price you see is a poor value when compared to the actual odds.

This is never more obvious than following those super boosts Sky do on the 12.30 Saturday games. Usually the most likely player on the field to score at Even money to have a shot on target. Often boosted from 1/5, 1/6, even 1/8. It seems absolute tremendous value. And it is I suppose. But if you’d followed them all since they started a couple of years, you’d probably be round about even at best. Nothing hits home at the poor value of their usual prices as that does to me.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

The bookies don't get their odds from the media - it's nonsense to presume a company that profits hundreds of millions of £'s pa (like Bet365) would do that. They are incredibly sophisticated and essentially every price you see is a poor value when compared to the actual odds.

I work in finance and know a guy who went to work in the head office of one of the big firms. It is 99% maths/statistical analysis now however they do have to step in to adjust what the machines wont know. Something like Haaland signing would be an example of that as the prior reference data would not be aware of the fact we played without a striker and he is and out and out striker.

But i do think there is some value to be gain by a match going fan. So many people bet now on phones and many wont be watching the games closely. Especially the acca types who just pick teams at random.

But anyone who makes money at gambling does so on the very small odds bets and with arbitrage as odds move. And those are the ones that betting companies shut down. An example would be just betting on a team to win when they are 2nil up and 20mins left. You win 95% + of those bets. If you use a bit of nouse to avoid the 5% of losses by watching the games closely then you could do well over time but the bookies will just close you down.

 

[ArdwickAlbert]

Went to the Copenhagen home game. Was going to put a fiver on 5-0 but it was only 8-1 on Bet365 online. Checked the coupon with BetUK that they have in the ground and it was 20s, so had my £5 on that. Just tried claiming my winnings and they are trying to return it as an 8-1! Cowboys.