Big news imminent re: Mars ??

[Clevers]

Doubt they've found life. Probably just found a new rock or something

Like this perhaps

 

[markbmcfc]

It won't be life. If life was found it would be Classified to the top level of government like it already is now.

They may have found water, traces of, or something similar.

 

[Bibinho]

According to Karl Pilkington, the council are dumping dishwashers and washing machines up there so yeah its prob true there has been "Life on mars and the moon"

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

It won't be life. If life was found it would be Classified to the top level of government like it already is now.

They may have found water, traces of, or something similar.

Right so highly classified is this info that some random guy on a football forum knows it exists. Pretty shit at top secret these top secret organisations aint they?

 

[Damocles]

Hmm..this was actually announced a few days back and I said then that I'd be surprised if they found life. The logic behind this, is that if they would have found life, keeping that a secret whilst they confirm would be almost impossible so we'd already know what they were confirming.

What I do believe is more likely is that they have found organic molecules on Mars. Organic molecules are the building blocks of DNA and would put much more stock in the idea (which I have supported for years) that life is abundant and not the rarity we seem to think that it is.

Organic molecules aren't life, but if we found them it would show that life can develop on other planets much easier than is thought. It would actually be a massive discovery, that I haven't done justice to here. If or when whatever this is is revealed, I'll make a post about it.

 

[Carstairs]

Hmm..this was actually announced a few days back and I said then that I'd be surprised if they found life. The logic behind this, is that if they would have found life, keeping that a secret whilst they confirm would be almost impossible so we'd already know what they were confirming.

What I do believe is more likely is that they have found organic molecules on Mars. Organic molecules are the building blocks of DNA and would put much more stock in the idea (which I have supported for years) that life is abundant and not the rarity we seem to think that it is.

Organic molecules aren't life, but if we found them it would show that life can develop on other planets much easier than is thought. It would actually be a massive discovery, that I haven't done justice to here. If or when whatever this is is revealed, I'll make a post about it.

What, like little animals and stuff??

 

[Damocles]

No, organic molecules aren't life but life cannot exist without organic molecules.

 

[Chris in London]

Hmm..this was actually announced a few days back and I said then that I'd be surprised if they found life. The logic behind this, is that if they would have found life, keeping that a secret whilst they confirm would be almost impossible so we'd already know what they were confirming.

What I do believe is more likely is that they have found organic molecules on Mars. Organic molecules are the building blocks of DNA and would put much more stock in the idea (which I have supported for years) that life is abundant and not the rarity we seem to think that it is.

Organic molecules aren't life, but if we found them it would show that life can develop on other planets much easier than is thought. It would actually be a massive discovery, that I haven't done justice to here. If or when whatever this is is revealed, I'll make a post about it.

From what I know of it the chances that there is NO other life in the Universe are really quite small. Whether there is any intelligent life, whether there is animal life, whether there are sentient beings is all another matter, but the idea that in this big universe the only place where life kicked off is Earth is quite a frightening one.

 

[Damocles]

From what I know of it the chances that there is NO other life in the Universe are really quite small. Whether there is any intelligent life, whether there is animal life, whether there are sentient beings is all another matter, but the idea that in this big universe the only place where life kicked off is Earth is quite a frightening one.

I would say that it an entire stupid proposition.

Now, there are around 400 billion Suns in OUR galaxy alone. If you take a low average of 5 planets per star (and this is a low average, many of the observed stars have many more than this), this is 2 trillion planets in our Milky Way. Finding the number of galaxies is a tough one but taking the idea that the Universe is roughly the same in every direction, we can extrapolate due to our observed galaxies that there are around 500 billion galaxies.

Don't forget that these 500 billion galaxies are made of THE SAME ELEMENTS as our Solar System. We do not hold a privileged position in the Universe, the elements that form the Earth and are abundant here, are also abundant everywhere in the Universe. When thinking of the idea that space inflated, this makes sense.

So if we extrapolate our info from the Milky Way onto the other galaxies, we can assume another 2 trillion planets per galaxy. This extrapolation is not necessarily a great one. Some galaxies are very young and don't have many stars, some are very old and don't have many stars, but we're dealing with a set of 500 billion so you can forgive the outliers.

This states that there are 1 septillion, or 1000000000000000000000000 planets

It is a 1 in 1 septillion shot that this is the only planet that formed organic life. This is so big of a chance to be almost ridiculous. If you started at the exact moment of the Big Bang and started counting once per second, you wouldn't reach this number

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

From what I know of it the chances that there is NO other life in the Universe are really quite small. Whether there is any intelligent life, whether there is animal life, whether there are sentient beings is all another matter, but the idea that in this big universe the only place where life kicked off is Earth is quite a frightening one.

I would say that it an entire stupid proposition.

Now, there are around 400 billion Suns in OUR galaxy alone. If you take a low average of 5 planets per star (and this is a low average, many of the observed stars have many more than this), this is 2 trillion planets in our Milky Way. Finding the number of galaxies is a tough one but taking the idea that the Universe is roughly the same in every direction, we can extrapolate due to our observed galaxies that there are around 500 billion galaxies.

Don't forget that these 500 billion galaxies are made of THE SAME ELEMENTS as our Solar System. We do not hold a privileged position in the Universe, the elements that form the Earth and are abundant here, are also abundant everywhere in the Universe. When thinking of the idea that space inflated, this makes sense.

So if we extrapolate our info from the Milky Way onto the other galaxies, we can assume another 2 trillion planets per galaxy. This extrapolation is not necessarily a great one. Some galaxies are very young and don't have many stars, some are very old and don't have many stars, but we're dealing with a set of 500 billion so you can forgive the outliers.

This states that there are 1 septillion, or 1000000000000000000000000 planets

It is a 1 in 1 septillion shot that this is the only planet that formed organic life. This is so big of a chance to be almost ridiculous. If you started at the exact moment of the Big Bang and started counting once per second, you wouldn't reach this number

Yes but if you take the variables in to account of how we know it has to be for life to form and the 1 in 8 shot we got at forming you can shorten that number by some amount.