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Biggest mistakes of the decade.
- Thread starter Silva&Silva
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You can have a great football side without the Etihad turning into disneyland.
Which club has a truly great side without disneyfying the stadium?
100% agree with every wordI’ve got no problem with anything on the pitch. Players come and go, sometimes clubs sign the wrong player, sometimes it works out, sometimes clubs miss out on a player they really needed, players miss sitters or make defensive howlers. It all happens at every club. But we’ve won 14 trophies (more than anyone else) this decade and won the league table of the decade.
So in my view our mistakes are all in the board room:
1. Becoming this pony club that panders to tourists/daytrippers/nobodies. Huge mistake this! I absolutely fucking hate that side of what we’ve become. Loads of fucking no marks sitting in our stadium every game who do not give a fucking shit about this football club, smile and take pictures when the opposition score, we’ve even seen some with United megastore bags inside their backpacks or Liverpool screen savers and even one the other week with a United baseball cap on (and they weren’t away fans, they were tourists who aren’t really United/Liverpool fans neither). They can all fuck off and never return in my view.
2. Upping seasoncard prices in 9 of the 10 years in the decade seeing thousands of long standing Blues fall away from our support
3. Scrapping Loyalty Points for away games
4. Giving far too much of our away allocation to corporates, or those tour agencies, and those coming out of the Loyalty Point percentage. Whoever thought that up needs slinging out of their job
5. Building a decent big three tier’d stand behind the goal and giving ¼ of it to away fans and having to give ¾ of it to away fans in the cups. Huge mistake that too! Should be no away fans in that entire stand.
6. City giving far too many tickets in our home stands to agencies who shift them on which results in away fans in the home end. Now, I’d rather have away fans in the home end than fucking tourists in the stands because at least they actually love the team they’ve come to see, but it should be real City fans in the home stands as a rule.
7. Not making a better transport situation back to Town from the Etihad.
When we were taken over I thought we’d do things differently to all the other clubs. We do not have the support like United Barça Bayern Madrid and Liverpool, we are very very different to them all, however we have the true supporter size to fill a 65000 stadium with proper Blues who’d make a great atmosphere. But our boardroom haven’t understood this and have made thousands of these fans fall away from our support. Khaldoon, for all his smooth talking in his end of year interviews (where he seems to say a lot of words and not actually say a lot) hasn’t understood and Soriano (with his stupid fucking attitude on his face on All Or Nothing when talking about our fans invading the pitch) hasn’t understood. And as a club we have tried to become just another United and failed without realising we don’t have that sort of fanbase. They think we have or have tried to make up these other kind of fans that United and the like have, you know, the nobodies who aren’t real fans, and it has seen our support change beyond recognition.
Now we have empty seats almost every single week and silent stands full of nobodies.
What a shame!
What a real fucking shame and shame on our boardroom for doing this to our support! A support that just 20 years ago was hands down the best support in the country (and this isn’t just my biased opinion to soup up my argument, a Villa fan said exactly the same thing to me when we played them this season).
sir baconface
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I’ve got no problem with anything on the pitch. Players come and go, sometimes clubs sign the wrong player, sometimes it works out, sometimes clubs miss out on a player they really needed, players miss sitters or make defensive howlers. It all happens at every club. But we’ve won 14 trophies (more than anyone else) this decade and won the league table of the decade.
So in my view our mistakes are all in the board room:
1. Becoming this pony club that panders to tourists/daytrippers/nobodies. Huge mistake this! I absolutely fucking hate that side of what we’ve become. Loads of fucking no marks sitting in our stadium every game who do not give a fucking shit about this football club, smile and take pictures when the opposition score, we’ve even seen some with United megastore bags inside their backpacks or Liverpool screen savers and even one the other week with a United baseball cap on (and they weren’t away fans, they were tourists who aren’t really United/Liverpool fans neither). They can all fuck off and never return in my view.
2. Upping seasoncard prices in 9 of the 10 years in the decade seeing thousands of long standing Blues fall away from our support
3. Scrapping Loyalty Points for away games
4. Giving far too much of our away allocation to corporates, or those tour agencies, and those coming out of the Loyalty Point percentage. Whoever thought that up needs slinging out of their job
5. Building a decent big three tier’d stand behind the goal and giving ¼ of it to away fans and having to give ¾ of it to away fans in the cups. Huge mistake that too! Should be no away fans in that entire stand.
6. City giving far too many tickets in our home stands to agencies who shift them on which results in away fans in the home end. Now, I’d rather have away fans in the home end than fucking tourists in the stands because at least they actually love the team they’ve come to see, but it should be real City fans in the home stands as a rule.
7. Not making a better transport situation back to Town from the Etihad.
When we were taken over I thought we’d do things differently to all the other clubs. We do not have the support like United Barça Bayern Madrid and Liverpool, we are very very different to them all, however we have the true supporter size to fill a 65000 stadium with proper Blues who’d make a great atmosphere. But our boardroom haven’t understood this and have made thousands of these fans fall away from our support. Khaldoon, for all his smooth talking in his end of year interviews (where he seems to say a lot of words and not actually say a lot) hasn’t understood and Soriano (with his stupid fucking attitude on his face on All Or Nothing when talking about our fans invading the pitch) hasn’t understood. And as a club we have tried to become just another United and failed without realising we don’t have that sort of fanbase. They think we have or have tried to make up these other kind of fans that United and the like have, you know, the nobodies who aren’t real fans, and it has seen our support change beyond recognition.
Now we have empty seats almost every single week and silent stands full of nobodies.
What a shame!
What a real fucking shame and shame on our boardroom for doing this to our support! A support that just 20 years ago was hands down the best support in the country (and this isn’t just my biased opinion to soup up my argument, a Villa fan said exactly the same thing to me when we played them this season).
Wow, that’s a passionate and well argued post.
Semper aggressus
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Not sign Van Persie,Hazard,Cavani , VVD, Sanchez (before Arsenal),
Let Boateng ,Tevez ,Sancho leave
Signing players like Bony, Sinclair, Javi Garcia,Demichelis, Fernando,Bravo,
Dont bring replacement for Kompany
Sums it all up for me.
I still find it hard to understand how from such a position of strength in the last couple of years, we have let Liverpool catch us and in some ways overtake. We should have been set for another ten years of dominating this league.
In my opinion it's almost entirely down to poor transfer decisions and lack of big bollocks in the transfer market against the two red history clubs. Almost like we were embarassed to outspend them. That has to change.
Prestwich_Blue
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Absiolutely. Our biggest mistake was not fucking off all those fans who still think things were better when we in League 1.So to summarize, you like the money and the trophies that come from it, but not the necessities to generate said money? I get to come to only one or two games a season so I guess I am a day tripper and can't comment, but I don't really understand that. It's pretty clear that the club are trying to be financially stable and sustainable, so you can't really have one without the other.
Tricky_Trev
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Over the last 5 years, City have averaged around £10m profit, so that £1.5m is around 15% of our bottom line profit. I wouldn’t say that makes it insignificant, but I do understand where you are coming from.Necessities? Ticketing generates next to fuck all. We have a turnover of over £500m and ticketing contributes very little towards that.
City upped seasoncard prices by £30odd again last year and that only generated a measly £1.3m. What was the point? City do not need £1.3m extra just to piss everyone off.
If they are wringing an extra £1.5m per year from us, that’s an extra £22.5m over 5 years compared to if they’d have just frozen it for 5 years. Our £50m profit over 5 years would almost be halved if they’d frozen ticket prices for that time.
2018/19 - £10.1m profit
2017/18 - £10.5m
2016/17 - £1.1m
2915/16 - £20.5m
2014/15 - £10.7m
I’ve got no problem with anything on the pitch. Players come and go, sometimes clubs sign the wrong player, sometimes it works out, sometimes clubs miss out on a player they really needed, players miss sitters or make defensive howlers. It all happens at every club. But we’ve won 14 trophies (more than anyone else) this decade and won the league table of the decade.
So in my view our mistakes are all in the board room:
1. Becoming this pony club that panders to tourists/daytrippers/nobodies. Huge mistake this! I absolutely fucking hate that side of what we’ve become. Loads of fucking no marks sitting in our stadium every game who do not give a fucking shit about this football club, smile and take pictures when the opposition score, we’ve even seen some with United megastore bags inside their backpacks or Liverpool screen savers and even one the other week with a United baseball cap on (and they weren’t away fans, they were tourists who aren’t really United/Liverpool fans neither). They can all fuck off and never return in my view.
2. Upping seasoncard prices in 9 of the 10 years in the decade seeing thousands of long standing Blues fall away from our support
3. Scrapping Loyalty Points for away games
4. Giving far too much of our away allocation to corporates, or those tour agencies, and those coming out of the Loyalty Point percentage. Whoever thought that up needs slinging out of their job
5. Building a decent big three tier’d stand behind the goal and giving ¼ of it to away fans and having to give ¾ of it to away fans in the cups. Huge mistake that too! Should be no away fans in that entire stand.
6. City giving far too many tickets in our home stands to agencies who shift them on which results in away fans in the home end. Now, I’d rather have away fans in the home end than fucking tourists in the stands because at least they actually love the team they’ve come to see, but it should be real City fans in the home stands as a rule.
7. Not making a better transport situation back to Town from the Etihad.
When we were taken over I thought we’d do things differently to all the other clubs. We do not have the support like United Barça Bayern Madrid and Liverpool, we are very very different to them all, however we have the true supporter size to fill a 65000 stadium with proper Blues who’d make a great atmosphere. But our boardroom haven’t understood this and have made thousands of these fans fall away from our support. Khaldoon, for all his smooth talking in his end of year interviews (where he seems to say a lot of words and not actually say a lot) hasn’t understood and Soriano (with his stupid fucking attitude on his face on All Or Nothing when talking about our fans invading the pitch) hasn’t understood. And as a club we have tried to become just another United and failed without realising we don’t have that sort of fanbase. They think we have or have tried to make up these other kind of fans that United and the like have, you know, the nobodies who aren’t real fans, and it has seen our support change beyond recognition.
Now we have empty seats almost every single week and silent stands full of nobodies.
What a shame!
What a real fucking shame and shame on our boardroom for doing this to our support! A support that just 20 years ago was hands down the best support in the country (and this isn’t just my biased opinion to soup up my argument, a Villa fan said exactly the same thing to me when we played them this season).
Improvements can be made (e.g. the away fan sectioning) but by and large the club know what they are doing and have done a brilliant job - we are very well run relative to all other clubs.
If you dislike corporatisation that much then the PL might not be for you anymore, because it's not going to change.
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The bus driver not accidentally driving the bus into a crowd of feral scumbags was in hindsight a big mistake