Bluemoon Angling Thread

Never done any coarse fishing apart from a bit of pole fishing with my Dad when I was a youngster, I do a fair bit of sea fishing but always kept it simple, my little lad has this week been pestering for me to take him to do a bit on a lake after seeing some youtube videos so I've promised to get the basics and take him before he starts back at school.

What do I need as far as a rod and reel? I'm thinking keep it traditional and just go for a float setup, I've been through all my sea fishing gear and somewhere over time I've picked up a random John Wilson avon rod (with quiver tips) is this any good for what I want paired with a cheap reel? I'm still going to get the lad a cheap rod and reel either way.

Thanks for any help, it will be much appreciated.

Big question that is hard to answer and quite a lot depends on what's in the lake you intend to take him to.

Starting with what you already have, the John Wilson Avon is a good rod but designed for river work. You could, however, use it as a float rod with the Avon end section (which I think would be really good on a carp commercial) or leger with it using the quiver section. If you are going to buy a float rod anyway, I'd start with a 13ft match rod. Even cheap ones are pretty good these days, same with reels.

I'd ask the tackle shop to recommend a decent cheap all-round reel for starters. You could use it for both float fishing and legering.
 
Big question that is hard to answer and quite a lot depends on what's in the lake you intend to take him to.

Starting with what you already have, the John Wilson Avon is a good rod but designed for river work. You could, however, use it as a float rod with the Avon end section (which I think would be really good on a carp commercial) or leger with it using the quiver section. If you are going to buy a float rod anyway, I'd start with a 13ft match rod. Even cheap ones are pretty good these days, same with reels.

I'd ask the tackle shop to recommend a decent cheap all-round reel for starters. You could use it for both float fishing and legering.

Thank you for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, I'm just going to take him to this place as it's only 15 mins away, going forwards probably take him on the canal as well if he enjoys it.


Stocks:Carp & ghost carp to 3lb,Koi Carp to 3lb, Rudd, Bream & Roach to 8oz & Ornamentals to 1.5lb

For now im just going to stick to the pleasure fishing lake out of the way of the Pros! I will keep the JW, absolutely no idea where it's come from, it looks brand new so I'm assuming I probably picked it up in a bunch of rods I bought years ago at a carboot so will ask about a suitable reel as you suggest and then look at a match rod and reel. Thank you.
 
Having a crack on the Welsh Dee for a couple of days.
Currently in a pub near Wrexhole.
I think they play Shrewsbury tomorrow, but all I am seeing is fucking scouse...

And a **** with a 'Sea Shepherd' top has just come in.
This will not end well.
 
Quick summary of my summer for anyone who is interested. It’s been a summer of biggish fish with no specimens or PBs. I had a campaign on a low stocked park lake, pre baiting in the week and fishing the weekend. Had 3 carp all low doubles, tench and bream to 8lb but no real specimens. I’ve taught my son and Ukrainian lad to lure fish and one had a perch of 1.5lb. My lure and live baiting for perch has been largely unsuccessful but I have caught perch to 2lb on worm. I’ve started to barbel fish a new stretch of a river I haven’t fished for over a decade (The Wharfe) and found a stunning stretxh which seems to be ignored and is producing for me. I’ve had a few and lost a couple but no doubles. Here’s a few pics.IMG_0117.jpegIMG_0117.jpegIMG_0118.jpegIMG_0120.jpegIMG_0121.jpegIMG_0119.jpeg
 
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Quick summary of my summer for anyone who is interested. It’s been a summer of biggish fish with no specimens or PBs. I had a campaign on a low stocked park lake, pre baiting in the week and fishing the weekend. Had 3 carp all low doubles, tench and bream to 8lb but no real specimens. I’ve taught my son and Ukrainian lad to lure fish and one had a perch of 1.5lb. My lure and live baiting for perch has been largely unsuccessful but I have caught perch to 2lb on worm. I’ve started to barbel fish a new stretch of a river I haven’t fished for over a decade (The Wharfe) and found a stunning stretxh which seems to be ignored and is producing for me. I’ve had a few and lost a couple but no doubles. Here’s a few pics.View attachment 131068View attachment 131068View attachment 131067View attachment 131066View attachment 131066View attachment 131065View attachment 131064
'no specimens'!? I'd be chuffed to bits with those bream and perch - carp and barbel not too shabby either.
 
'no specimens'!? I'd be chuffed to bits with those bream and perch - carp and barbel not too shabby either.
I’m on a constant quest to improve my PBs and haven’t done one for a few years now. Been chasing a big pike and bream for a few years now with no success. It’s not easy in my adopted Yorkshire. Forgot to add these from the spring too. I suppose you could certainly say I’ve had a variety this year.IMG_0123.jpegIMG_0122.jpeg
 
Up in Alaska at the moment for three days of Ocean fishing, started out yesterday with several halibut, some Rock fish (bass), ling cod and some gray cod for some extra meat. Caught a nice little shark and one guy pulled up a huge Skate Ray. Got lucky with the weather, about to get some breakfast for today’s adventure
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Up in Alaska at the moment for three days of Ocean fishing, started out yesterday with several halibut, some Rock fish (bass), ling cod and some gray cod for some extra meat. Caught a nice little shark and one guy pulled up a huge Skate Ray. Got lucky with the weather, about to get some breakfast for today’s adventure
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Can't see your float?
 
I’m on a constant quest to improve my PBs and haven’t done one for a few years now. Been chasing a big pike and bream for a few years now with no success. It’s not easy in my adopted Yorkshire. Forgot to add these from the spring too. I suppose you could certainly say I’ve had a variety this year.View attachment 131080View attachment 131081
To be honest mate, I am every bit as impressed that you can still sit like that and get up without assistance as I am with the fish. I would need a winch and pully.
 
I've been getting out a bit. Had a week on the Wye in torrential rain and flood conditions and had two brilliant days and three blanks which reflects flodwater fishing well. Some of the fishing was verging on dangerous as the steep banks just turned into mudslides but I survived. All the barbel were below double figure but we had plenty and some big chubPikehilltop.jpeg.

The only other fish of note was on Saturday where I managed to stalk this nice pike which I saw swirling down the bank whilst deadbaiting. DEfinitely got my pike head on at the moment and am depserate for a 20+ to add to the list.
 
I've been getting out a bit. Had a week on the Wye in torrential rain and flood conditions and had two brilliant days and three blanks which reflects flodwater fishing well. Some of the fishing was verging on dangerous as the steep banks just turned into mudslides but I survived. All the barbel were below double figure but we had plenty and some big chubView attachment 135937.

The only other fish of note was on Saturday where I managed to stalk this nice pike which I saw swirling down the bank whilst deadbaiting. DEfinitely got my pike head on at the moment and am depserate for a 20+ to add to the list.

Wow, that is some fishing, we'll done. Haven't ventured near a river myself for some time and haven't been fishing well at all.

Just back from Portugal where the weather was atrocious and my mate and I both went down with the lurgy on the first day so, for the first week, at least, were just ggoing through the motions.

Having said that, we did crack a new water which hasn't yet been invaded by spiny little catfish and which seems to contain a better stamp of carp. Biggest we got was 19.5lbs but most were around the 12lbs mark. Big, big water with only one or two fishable swims.

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Wow, that is some fishing, we'll done. Haven't ventured near a river myself for some time and haven't been fishing well at all.

Just back from Portugal where the weather was atrocious and my mate and I both went down with the lurgy on the first day so, for the first week, at least, were just ggoing through the motions.

Having said that, we did crack a new water which hasn't yet been invaded by spiny little catfish and which seems to contain a better stamp of carp. Biggest we got was 19.5lbs but most were around the 12lbs mark. Big, big water with only one or two fishable swims.

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RIP Noggsy. I think that's the way we'd all like to go.
 
I’m having a very interesting start to the pike season. There’s a big reservoir on the Pennines that contains good pike. At the moment it has been drained down as they do work on the dam wall. For that reason you can walk around the whole water and access the half which is not normally fishable. It’s also allowing me to see all the bars and underwater features. I’ve found a bay with a big shallow plateau and I’ve now fished it four times with dead baits. I’ve had three runs and landed three nice pike, all from exactly the same spot on the side of the plateau.IMG_0213.jpegIMG_0210.jpegIMG_0203.jpeg
 

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