Bluemoon labour thread.

Dr.Faustus said:
ElanJo said:
True, I just get abit picky on terms when people bring up capitalism and socialism. Both sides tend to point to the negative effects of each system and shout "see!!!" when in reality almost all of these negative effects are mainly based on the interferance of the state. When we assess both capitalism and socialism it is my view that the main talking points are, or should be, more to do with first principles and ethics moreso than wealth distribution, tho of course the ends should play a part.
I'm of the view that capitalism is the more ethical approach. I also think it is more suited to economic and technological advancment and sustainability... but that is more of a happy bonus in my eyes.
With that said, I have a sneaky suspision that I'd find living in a more socialist environment far more rewarding emotionally. I'd like to see the state dissolved either way. once that is done I think we'd find that a mix of anarcho-syndicalism and anarcho-capitalism emerge in a way that will benefit the general populous. Of course, this isn't going to happen in my lifetime, but I think it is inevitible (bar anything catastrophic happening). The general trend of human history has has seen an upward curve in freedom

What happened to competition? I think general ignorance and the power of state propganda has thus far outcompeted :(

Though i agree for the most part; I am not sure however that we are now any nearer to freedom than at any point in history- oppression has merely changed its guise- is it even possible to isolate human nature, to wish to dominate. Societal standards may give the appearance of progression towards freedom but in reality the system remains the same, merely different classes of people are rewarded and oppressed.

I think you may be right. I'm pessimistic about our short term future but can't help being optimistic for our future in the long term. The next 50 years is perhaps going to be the most important time in history. If we can get through enormous state control, radical religionists (is that a word??) and nukes we can get through anything! :)
 

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