Bluemoon Popularity Surging

Eaststander1 said:
It could well surge, IF we lose the case .... the seething, gloating brigade will come flying out of their traps in force, rags, gooners, dippers, the lot !

However should we win the case we won't see or hear from any of them unless they've actually got enough balls to apologise for 'jumping the gun' and wrongly judging us !
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When we are announced winners I expect to see many more folk become City fans and boost the membership of BM!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Is the black dot still there?
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How that was implemented in the old forum is that each user ID was listed in the database with a thread ID linked to a post ID. So every UserID linked to every thread ID linked to every post ID. The table was hundreds of thousands of rows long and due to the DB engine it used, it locked the entire table during a READ operation for a single user which was absolutely killing us. For the usefulness of it, it was INCREDIBLY bad on performance as you might imagine Col. Back before we went into the cloud and were trying to extract every ounce of performance from a single virtual hosted Win/IIS server, it was a trade off that seems bizarre to the end user but I thought was worth it.
Remember the guy whose username looks like a fish? The problem there is that at the time, the DB wasn't on UTF-8 encoding and was on Latin-1 so it had to go through another processing cycle every time he posted because the forum thought the username was an SQL injection attack and had to verify, so every time he posted on a page, that page would take an extra few ms to load. And back then, that really was the difference between the forum working and Mr General Error showing up.

Was a laugh tbh, I learned an absolute ton about efficiency from trying to battle through the issues back then. Has held me in good stead in the future and everybody on here took it with good humour which was nice for my confidence. The Bossman has always encouraged me to experiment and think which was good in my 20s and 30s in terms of hands on experience of a high traffic, low latency site. Miss those days a little, even though I bet the userbase doesn't!

My only regret was when we put a live chat up on the maintenance screen without thinking about moderation. Bit of a mistake there lol.
 
pepguardiola'smoustache said:
At this moment in time there are 2,368 guests viewing the forum
and only 238 members online, i.e. 10% of the total 2606.
Plus there seem to be over 800 robots having a gander.

@Damocles is this pretty much usual figures?
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Pretty much. 85%+ users are usually not logged in when they visit the site. It has grown, in 2012ish it was around 75%.

I will also mention for absolutely no reason that we surpassed RAWK in unique user traffic in 2018 and have never had a single season beneath them since then. Not that I'm keeping score.
 
Damocles said:
Pretty much. 85%+ users are usually not logged in when they visit the site. It has grown, in 2012ish it was around 75%.

I will also mention for absolutely no reason that we surpassed RAWK in unique user traffic in 2018 and have never had a single season beneath them since then. Not that I'm keeping score.
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I'm loathe to say it, but I can see why they don't allow "guests" on there anymore, and that you have to register to even read it, never mind post on there. Those figures re the ratio of guests to registered users on here are ludicrous. What percentage of those "guests" are City fans? I'm guessing it's low.
 
jimharri said:
I'm loathe to say it, but I can see why they don't allow "guests" on there anymore, and that you have to register to even read it, never mind post on there. Those figures re the ratio of guests to registered users on here are ludicrous. What percentage of those "guests" are City fans? I'm guessing it's low.
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Guests ad usage can help pay for users who can't afford the ad free thing though. And they can't post as guests, so it's a trade off I guess.
 
Damocles said:
Guests ad usage can help pay for users who can't afford the ad free thing though. And they can't post as guests, so it's a trade off I guess.
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I was saying years ago that there should be some sort of subscription fee on here. Even a nominal amount (say, £10 a year?) would help to deal with some of the costs involved in keeping the forum running. And sort out the wheat from the chaff. And yes; I know Ric is dead set against it. But he can occasionally be wrong mistaken, you know?


;-l
 
jimharri said:
I was saying years ago that there should be some sort of subscription fee on here. Even a nominal amount (say, £10 a year?) would help to deal with some of the costs involved in keeping the forum running. And sort out the wheat from the chaff. And yes; I know Ric is dead set against it. But he can occasionally be wrong mistaken, you know?


;-l
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I barracked him for years about it, but he did relent somewhat.


There's an ad free tier now but Ric being Ric doesn't advertise it enough!
 
jimharri said:
I was saying years ago that there should be some sort of subscription fee on here. Even a nominal amount (say, £10 a year?) would help to deal with some of the costs involved in keeping the forum running. And sort out the wheat from the chaff. And yes; I know Ric is dead set against it. But he can occasionally be wrong mistaken, you know?


;-l
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I just checked and there are some 80,000 members.
You don't have to be great at arithmetic to work that out at a tenner each but you'd have to assume a fair old percentage wouldn't be up for it.
 
pepguardiola'smoustache said:
I just checked and there are some 80,000 members.
You don't have to be great at arithmetic to work that out at a tenner each but you'd have to assume a fair old percentage wouldn't be up for it.
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I don't the exact figures off hand but I reckon the ad free tier pays for MAYBE 5% of the monthly costs at best. And that's after years of there being no ad free tier. This forum survives because Ric and his family supports it and maybe people should recognise that more. If something tragic were to happen to Ric and Billy took over as Bossman then we'd have some very hard decisions to make. It's why I always implore people to stick their hand in their pocket if they value this as a community, because it would ensure our continued existence
 
Damocles said:
I don't the exact figures off hand but I reckon the ad free tier pays for MAYBE 5% of the monthly costs at best. And that's after years of there being no ad free tier. This forum survives because Ric and his family supports it and maybe people should recognise that more. If something tragic were to happen to Ric and Billy took over as Bossman then we'd have some very hard decisions to make. It's why I always implore people to stick their hand in their pocket if they value this as a community, because it would ensure our continued existence
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Even if a low uptake of, say, 10% paid a minimal subscription like I said a couple of posts back, 80k would go quite a way towards some of the expenses associated with the running of the forum.
 
jimharri said:
Even if a low uptake of, say, 10% paid a minimal subscription like I said a couple of posts back, 80k would go quite a way towards some of the expenses associated with the running of the forum.
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Honestly from what I can gather from financial terms, and it's not something I get involved in but I understand the costs through my work, if 25% of the properly active user base who have tens of thousands of posts valued this community enough to join the ad free scheme then it would secure the long term future of it. Unfortunately, it's not something that Ric promotes so many people literally don't know it exists. It's a constant frustration because people really value this place and a pint or two per month is very little to them that they'd be happy to chip in for.
 
BridgyDids said:
I was signed up for years, and never came on. Fairly recent (few years) have I got involved / visited the site. I used to be a poster on NME forum back in the day when I was a student, and some Champ Manager forums too.

Probably a big reason for me coming on was social media going to the toilet.

I feel comfort there is less bots on here, than on X/ Instagram/Facebook etc
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Oooh do tell. Which CM forums and what was your user name?
 
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