Bluemoon remembrance day, lets never forget our heros

mackenzie said:
i8therags said:
My Grandad born 1899 in the somme at 15 or 16.Found his medal card on UK Archives.Can;t begin to think how bad it was,at any age for them ,on all sides.When you;re stuck on a crap job and can;t get home on time it pails into nothing compered to the crap job they did for us..
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I have a CD of the Roll of Honour for the Salford lads in WW1. Couldn't understand why my Great Great Uncle was on it but his Dad wasn't. Both had fought in WW1 and lived at the same address. Great Grandfather had even been taken prisoner and came back from the War a changed man.

Then I read somewhere that such rolls were to only include men who had paid to have their entries published. Is that right?

That I don;t know--I;m not sure if "roll of honour" is the same as "medal card".If you go on UK Archives and look for medal cards you may find somthing on it..I;d love to put it on here to show what they look like but I;m usless on the computor,pasting and stuff.
 
i8therags said:
That I don;t know--I;m not sure if "roll of honour" is the same as "medal card".If you go on UK Archives and look for medal cards you may find somthing on it..I;d love to put it on here to show what they look like but I;m usless on the computor,pasting and stuff.
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The CD I have seems to have originated from some kind of publication just after the War.

But thank you. I have checked out loads of stuff over the years re my family history but didn't know about the medal cards.
 
robspankthemonkey said:
brooklandsblue said:
Agree, but it will not be long until some left wing council stop rememberance day.
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Ill riot on the streets if that was to happen.
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You and me both.

They're already teaching 6 year old kids about same sex relationships in schools and basically outlawed St Georges Day, nothing will suprise me these days.
 
brooklandsblue said:
robspankthemonkey said:
brooklandsblue said:
Agree, but it will not be long until some left wing council stop rememberance day.
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Ill riot on the streets if that was to happen.
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You and me both.

They're already teaching 6 year old kids about same sex relationships in schools and basically outlawed St Georges Day, nothing will suprise me these days.
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What happened to innocence?
 
robspankthemonkey said:
What happened to innocence?
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It vanished with decency, honesty, hard work and manners many years ago my friend. A string of left wing do gooders who decided they knew best and went about telling us how to live our lives and dictate what we can and can not do.
 
mackenzie said:
i8therags said:
That I don;t know--I;m not sure if "roll of honour" is the same as "medal card".If you go on UK Archives and look for medal cards you may find somthing on it..I;d love to put it on here to show what they look like but I;m usless on the computor,pasting and stuff.
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The CD I have seems to have originated from some kind of publication just after the War.

But thank you. I have checked out loads of stuff over the years re my family history but didn't know about the medal cards.
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The National Archives--home page--first world war medals[in military history]---advanced search.....I;ve just done it now after a few years and managed to find my grandads again
 
brooklandsblue said:
robspankthemonkey said:
What happened to innocence?
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It vanished with decency, honesty, hard work and manners many years ago my friend. A string of left wing do gooders who decided they knew best and went about telling us how to live our lives and dictate what we can and can not do.
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How true that statement is, but obviously not for everyone those things are still very important to me and its how i was bought up,Shame nowadays those 4 words are disappearing slowly,
but before any one jumps on me about this thankfully not everyone has forgotten them, but i wouldn't want to be born nowadays and grow up in this world not the way it is now.
 
robspankthemonkey said:
brooklandsblue said:
robspankthemonkey said:
What happened to innocence?
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It vanished with decency, honesty, hard work and manners many years ago my friend. A string of left wing do gooders who decided they knew best and went about telling us how to live our lives and dictate what we can and can not do.
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How true that statement is, but obviously not for everyone those things are still very important to me and its how i was bought up,Shame nowadays those 4 words are disappearing slowly,
but before any one jumps on me about this thankfully not everyone has forgotten them, but i wouldn't want to be born nowadays and grow up in this world not the way it is now.
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I am 27 mate and I feel the same, I still feel that there is some respect and decency among my age group, a lot of the kids even 6-10 years younger than me have little or no respect for anyone or anything. (not all, just the majority**)
 
My great uncle was a regular and part of the 'contemptible little army' that was sent out to France in 1914 to face the Germans in the open battles before the trenches, he was dead within the month, he was the only brother to six sisters.

Even in the trenches forms had to be filled in and records kept, and much of this is still about, somewhere, waiting to be looked at. Much of it is unindexed, or indexed only by unit, or by date. If you're wanting to look someone up the most helpful thing to know is their unit, usually that's which battalion of which regiment. From that you should be able to find the most likely records office to start looking in.
 
Does anyone know if there will be a nationwide minutes silence next weekend? Cannot remember if one happend last year. Also are we doing the poppy shirts again like West Brom did on Saturday?
 
As some of you might be aware, I work in Local Studies and Family History here in the North East. We regularly assist people tracing war dead ancestors and it rarely fails to move you, whatever your personal ethical unease about the 1914-18 war in particular. There's a memorial in the centre of Newcastle entitled 'The Response, 1914' which I quite honestly find chilling, but it's important to consider that it was initially a very popular war. You've only to look at photographs of the mile-long queues of men volunteering for Kitchener's Army, which raised 2.5 million recruits by 1916. It was only after the horrendous results of the Somme offensive that information of the true nature of war on the Western Front began to leak back to the British public, by which time we were past the point of no return and conscription was introduced.

One worrying trend among revisionist historians is the effort to partly exonerate the likes of Douglas Haig and his attrition strategy, which cost 60,000 British casualties on 1 July 1916 alone.
 
great post
as ever I will be attending the service at Haymarket,Edinburgh and cordially invite all exiled or local City fans to attend,also please read Macrae's Battalian a brilliant book about how an almost whole Hearts first team signed up to fight despite football being a protected occupation.
 
Oh! You who sleep in Flanders’ fields,
Sleep sweet - to rise anew,
We caught the torch you threw,
And holding high we kept
The faith with those who died.
We cherish too, the poppy red
That grows on fields where valour led.

It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies,
But lends a lustre to the red
Of the flower that blooms above the dead
In Flanders’ fields.

And now the torch and poppy red
Wear in honour of our dead.
Fear not that ye have died for naught
We’ve learned the lesson that ye taught
In Flanders’ fields.




Never forgotten, the heroes who gave us what we have today. Everyone should take just 1 minute out of their day on the 11th to stop and remember those who gave their lives for us. RIP Brave Heroes.
 
Good thread this. My GGF is buried in Dernancourt cemetery, France. He was killed aged 35 on 31 March 1918 along with two of his pals from the 10th Battalion Lancs Fusiliers when a German mortar scored a direct hit on the cellar he was resting in on Easter Sunday. He joined the war from the outset in 1914 and took part in many battles on the Western Front. He was wounded twice and gassed once during these battles. He was from Salford and worked for the Manchester Ship Canal Company prior to the war. His name was Christopher Walsh and I will be remembering him on the 11th November, as always, during the parade and service at Swinton war memorial.

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