Bob Crow dead

[urmston]

The late Mr Crow was a successful union boss and did well for his members, but he had quite a few things in his favour.


His successes mainly came for London tube workers.

The London tube is a public sector company and has a monopoly supply of something lots of people need every day.

It probably has the same useless, soft touch management as most public sector bodies, can raise prices as it wants without fear of losing business and is subsidised too by taxpayers.

It is never going to go out of business and will always have a vast, guaranteed income. Public sector bodies have a long track record of paying well, giving good benefits like lots of holidays and great pensions.

It's against this background that Mr Crow did well.

If he'd been in charge of the shop workers or factory workers unions where desperate companies fight hard against intense competition and can get easy access to minimum wage staff he'd have probably been as ineffective as union leaders in those industries.

 

[tidyman]

The late Mr Crow was a successful union boss and did well for his members, but he had quite a few things in his favour.


His successes mainly came for London tube workers.

The London tube is a public sector company and has a monopoly supply of something lots of people need every day.

It probably has the same useless, soft touch management as most public sector bodies, can raise prices as it wants without fear of losing business and is subsidised too by taxpayers.

It is never going to go out of business and will always have a vast, guaranteed income. Public sector bodies have a long track record of paying well, giving good benefits like lots of holidays and great pensions.

It's against this background that Mr Crow did well.

If he'd been in charge of the shop workers or factory workers unions where desperate companies fight hard against intense competition and can get easy access to minimum wage staff he'd have probably been as ineffective as union leaders in those industries.

Don't make the mistake of thinking, the only disputes on going are those that get media attention. Disputes on London Underground will always recieve maximum coverage but the RMT are the only union that represents all transport workers. They have succesfully won improved pay and conditions for many of the type of workers you talk about recently, including cleaners employed by the dreadful Carlisle group and even self employed taxi drivers. As well as many other groups that never get an inch of newspaper coverage.

These people who claim that unions no longer have a roll in the workplace, have either no idea whatsoever what is going on out there or it's simply wishful thinking on their self interested part.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Crow most recently opposed the ticket office closures yet statistics showed they're being used less and less. There were to be no compulsory redundancies and staff redeployed to be used more efficiently on the station itself. Whether they become any more helpful, knowledgeable and polite than the current dregs working there is yet to be seen. The two day strikes absolutely cripple commuting in London and make a usually stressful journey even worse.

I was last the member of a union in 2005 when I worked for CIS on Miller Street. They were about as useful as a chocolate fireguard when the redundancies and redeployment came in and no work place since has had such a group. We've never needed them.

Never needed Unions!! Keep taking the heroin.

Unions are corrupt, self-serving and usually run by contradictory left wing dinosaurs. Working for the Co-Op was the biggest mistake I've ever made and the union for such a "workers workers workers" organisation were shambolic. Since then, I've worked for global companies and we've had no need for a union because things are fine.

So because you personally have no need for a union, they don't need to exist for others less fortunate?
What myopic logic that is.
I think we should do away with pacemakers and guide dogs, because I don't need either.
Has it ever occurred to you that there is a whole world out there that doesn't revolve around your personal circumstances?
Without trade unions, millions more folk across the globe would be working in unsafe conditions for derisory wages.
But then that clearly doesn't matter, because it doesn't concern you.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

He was a nasty piece of work.

RIP

 

[union city blue]

He was a nasty piece of work.

RIP

No surprise at all that you would eventually show up on this thread. As for 'nasty piece of work' you perhaps need to look in the mirror. Some of us remember your disgraceful postings on the Mandela thread.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

He was a nasty piece of work.

RIP

No surprise at all that you would eventually show up on this thread. As for 'nasty piece of work' you perhaps need to look in the mirror. Some of us remember your disgraceful postings on the Mandela thread.

I'm still happy the murderer is dead.

 

[DelToro]

He was a nasty piece of work.

RIP

No surprise at all that you would eventually show up on this thread. As for 'nasty piece of work' you perhaps need to look in the mirror. Some of us remember your disgraceful postings on the Mandela thread.

I'm still happy the murderer is dead.

Are we talking Thatcher or Blair here?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

No surprise at all that you would eventually show up on this thread. As for 'nasty piece of work' you perhaps need to look in the mirror. Some of us remember your disgraceful postings on the Mandela thread.

I'm still happy the murderer is dead.

Are we talking Thatcher or Blair here?

Lionel Blair is dead?

 

[DelToro]

I'm still happy the murderer is dead.

Are we talking Thatcher or Blair here?

Lionel Blair is dead?

I don't know.

Give us a clue.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Are we talking Thatcher or Blair here?

Lionel Blair is dead?

I don't know.

Give us a clue.

It's a play.