Boris Johnson admitted to hospital - now discharged

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Ban-jani said:
This may sound over the top but if he doesn’t beat it then it would be a great loss of moral and potential chaos for the country.

That could result in many more lives lost.
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By the same note it could unite the country at a time it needs it more than ever. You never know till it happens ( and no im not wishing it on him ).
 
Chippy_boy said:
I absolutely can.

You get 1 to 1 supervision and much closer monitoring in ICU. It's not just about the types of treatment available. Do you not think we'd want to give the Prime Minister rather closer monitoring than normal? Like I say, he'll probably have a line in so they can test his blood stats much more frequently for example.
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It’s more than 1 to 1 care in ICU. The BBC visit to UCL (yesterday’s news) showed 4 or 5 doctors and nurses supporting a patient. Bojo would just take up a bed / room where his care warrants and his security team could be deployed around. Yes he might get more regular checks and tests as PM but I don’t see the care being vastly different to the rest of the patients.
 
For all the criticism he gets (unfair in my opinion) he has probably been working round the clock on this the the point he has not let himself recover
Whatever side of the political divide your on these guys must be under SI much pressure
Hope he recovers and takes a break even at this time of madness
 
Tb1981 said:
For all the criticism he gets (unfair in my opinion) he has probably been working round the clock on this the the point he has not let himself recover
Whatever side of the political divide your on these guys must be under SI much pressure
Hope he recovers and takes a break even at this time of madness
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One thing I remember Kuennsberg saying about Boris in her Brexit documentary is she said he craves love and acceptance. If true he may well have given so many fucks his body has said back the fuck up and rest.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I’ve only seen people wishing Boris well apart from some composite of nasty posts that some political
Activist has pulled together. The overwhelming majority of people wish Boris well.
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It doesn't matter what your politics are or your view on the handling of this crisis,this is a man in intensive care,any kind of point scoring or snidey comments is out of order
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
Sounds positive currently. He hasn't got pneumonia, he has been receiving oxygen but non-invasive and he is in good spirits - from Downing Street briefing.
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Typically sanitised statement from No 10. It’s wrong to say too much... like anyone else Boris is entitled to patient confidentiality and the next 48 hours will be critical and from everything I’ve read Boris is in the day 11/12 of the virus where anything can happen. Just got to hope his immune system keeps fighting but getting fluid on the lungs at this stage really isn’t good.
 
I sincerely hope Johnson pulls through, but some good might come from this frightening episode. To some extent all of us live our lives as if we'll live forever, we know we won't, but we don't do the things we should and we do too much of the things we shouldn't.

That's certainly the case with Johnson, both personally and politically, he's always flown by the seat of his pants, but after something as profound as this, that might change.

Those of us who have had near death experiences, or prolonged illnesses that put our mortality front and centre know things. Once you're on the mend, it is often accompanied by a profound stocktaking. Things we thought were true we now know are false, those things we thought were important we now realise are not, and often we see, sometimes for the first time, the things that are really important.

Johnson will have plenty of time to stocktake on the road to recovery, he could well come out of this a better man.
 
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Tim of the Oak said:
It’s more than 1 to 1 care in ICU. The BBC visit to UCL (yesterday’s news) showed 4 or 5 doctors and nurses supporting a patient. Bojo would just take up a bed / room where his care warrants and his security team could be deployed around. Yes he might get more regular checks and tests as PM but I don’t see the care being vastly different to the rest of the patients.
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The norm is 1:1, although they are struggling to maintain that with the current outbreak and NHS resources being so stretched.

I've spent quite a long time in there, including with an elderly relative with advanced COPD on a CPAP machine.
 
On a lighter note, in the Times comments section....

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Chippy_boy said:
Exactly. You were suggesting more staff per patient, but it's the other way around.

From your article, "The staff-to-patient ratios for intensive care are being dramatically reduced as the NHS seeks to rapidly expand its capacity to treat severely ill covid-19 patients."
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True mate and I gave a bad example. I meant to point out that 1:1 was just recommended for the nursing cover when a patient is being observed etc and not including the doctors etc when a patient is fighting for their life. I think the staffing ratios will be less at the Nightingale Hospital from what I’ve read.

Yes if Boris is just being observed and having tests then 1:1 cover is recommend good practice
 
Tim of the Oak said:
True mate and I gave a bad example. I meant to point out that 1:1 was just recommended for the nursing cover when a patient is being observed etc and not including the doctors etc when a patient is fighting for their life. I think the staffing ratios will be less at the Nightingale Hospital from what I’ve read.

Yes if Boris is just being observed and having tests then 1:1 cover is recommend good practice
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If he's not on a ventilator or even CPAP and he's getting 1:1 nursing he's very privileged. If.
 
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