Boxing > UFC

[Why Always Ste]

Anyone else reckon *singingtheblues* isn't a fan of MMA?

Haha, I'm yet to see anyone counter my argument though.

Boxing>MMA.

LoL.......

Your making out as though fighters get knocked unconscious all the time in MMA, and when they do get "knocked out" the other fighter purposely carries on smashing the unconscious fighter with referee endorsement.... when it is very rare, I mean i've seen goalkeepers score goals more than I have seen this scenario.

MMA is by no means a perfect sport, same with any other sport.

 

[*singingtheblues*]

Exactly the same in MMA isn't it though mate?

But in MMA you're likely to find yourself semi-concious (or even completely out), on your back, and completely unable to defend yourself while on you're on the receiving end of more punches.

In MMA a referee's intervention is even more important as it's within the rules to strike an opponent when he is down.

In boxing you have a standing eight count, and by and large the boxer's health is put ahead of the spectator's entertainment, from my experience it's the complete opposite in MMA.

Yes, you get an eight count, but...........look at fighters like paul ingle, carl thomson, carl johanssen, ali, the list is endless. These guys could take 'a dig' and had great powers of recovery, but look at them, they all show evidence of brain injuries, from slight to severe. In mma taking a few unanswered blows, while out is not the same as constant head shots for half an hour. Not wanting to bore you about me again, however i lost my last couple because i did not take a knee, and was heavily kayo'd in my penultimate bout, due to being worn down with heavy head shots, and walking onto a cracking left hook right uppercut combo. They both are dangerous sports, but to say a boxers health is more important than spectator entertainment is quite wrong, in some cases, look at benn v mclellan that should've been stopped in geralds favour in round 1, or paul ingle v botile, what about julius francis having the daily star, on the sole of his boots v tyson? Boxing has had missmatches in abundance, where in mma the best seem to fight the best, no padded 0's on a record of cannon fodder.

We can discuss individual incidents til we're blue in the face mate, boxing has been around for 100 years but while MMA is still in its infancy we can't really compare the two in terms of past tragedies, because naturally there's not much to go on (unless I'm oblivious to some, due to my dislike for the 'sport').

But in general that's how I find MMA, the fighter's health comes second to the spectator's entertainment.<br /><br />-- Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:45 pm --<br /><br />

Haha, I'm yet to see anyone counter my argument though.

Boxing>MMA.

LoL.......

Your making out as though fighters get knocked unconscious all the time in MMA, and when they do get "knocked out" the other fighter purposely carries on smashing the unconscious fighter with referee endorsement.... when it is very rare, I mean i've seen goalkeepers score goals more than I have seen this scenario.

MMA is by no means a perfect sport, same with any other sport.

Come off it mate.

It's bred into each fighter to continue striking an opponent even when he's hit the ground from a concussive kick/punch, it's the norm.

I just find that repulsive tbh, there's no honour in hitting someone while they're in that state, and that's always when the permanent damage is done.

That's more akin to a street fight than anything you'd find in a respectable sport.

At least in boxing if I'm on the canvas, and I'm unable to defend myself I wouldn't face any more punishment, and the referee would give me the once over to see if I was fit to continue.

MMA is in bad taste, and isn't worthy to be deemed a sport.

 

[MMA]

*singingtheblues*[quote
Come off it mate.

It's bred into each fighter to continue striking an opponent even when he's hit the ground from a concussive kick/punch, it's the norm.

I just find that repulsive tbh, there's no honour in hitting someone while they're in that state, and that's always when the permanent damage is done.

That's more akin to a street fight than anything you'd find in a respectable sport.

At least in boxing if I'm on the canvas, and I'm unable to defend myself I wouldn't face any more punishment, and the referee would give me the once over to see if I was fit to continue.

MMA is in bad taste, and isn't worthy to be deemed a sport.[/quote]

Nonsence. If a fighter in MMA is on the floor and seen to be NOT defending himself the ref WILL stop the fight. How many times in boxing have you seen a fighter taken a standing 8 count and you know he doesnt know where he is or what day it is only for the ref to let him continue so his opponent can get the knockout that the spectators want to see. Your a spectator, ive fought pro in both boxing and MMA for years and i love them both but your argument is just too flawed. Its the fight game regardless of whether its boxing or MMA. As a fighter your there to hit and be hit. For the fighter the competition and the glory. And for the spectator the spectacle of seeing it.

 

[Timmmmahhhh]

Come girls, leave it out, lets agree to disagree ey?

Your all clearly passionate about your respective sports, there will be no winner in this arguement!!

 

[badmash]

Let the public decide
Which 2 MMA fighters would bring in the biggest croud and generate the most TV money???
Now compare that to say Mayweather v Pacquiao or any other big boxing fight from the past.

As Arry would say Boxing would blow it out da warrttaaa

 

[Why Always Ste]

Let the public decide
Which 2 MMA fighters would bring in the biggest croud and generate the most TV money???
Now compare that to say Mayweather v Pacquiao or any other big boxing fight from the past.

As Arry would say Boxing would blow it out da warrttaaa

Whats that got to do with anything?

Comparing the two is like comparing Rugby with Football... both played on grass but completely different rules.

 

[badmash]

Let the public decide
Which 2 MMA fighters would bring in the biggest croud and generate the most TV money???
Now compare that to say Mayweather v Pacquiao or any other big boxing fight from the past.

As Arry would say Boxing would blow it out da warrttaaa

Whats that got to do with anything?

Comparing the two is like comparing Rugby with Football... both played on grass but completely different rules.

Err I was going off the topic of the OP

 

[leighton]

Boxing has all the history of the former great fighters but at this moment in time boxing isnt putting on the fights of the past were top class fighters boxed each other. Now adays in boxing its all about keeping the O and you could well have a fighter who has had 20-30 fights won them all and go for a fight with the champion and get found out and then vanish into thin air.

I like what the MMA are doing and it is very rare that there is a protected fighter in it like in boxing. At the moment the MMA world are writing there history already only starting out I can imagine what they will be like in another 10 years time. More and more people watching MMA they are catching up boxing all the time and are now 1 of boxing biggest rivals. I have heard former boxers talk about the UFC and say if it was about back when they started out they would of loved to try it out in the UFC. Now I am a big boxing fan but even I can see were MMA is going and boxing need to do something fast or else they will be left behind in years to come.

 

[the kippax pigeon]

I totally agree with you. Ive boxed for many years from the age of 9 , im now 37. At our gym we also have MMA fighters, if im boxing against an MMA fighter 9/10 im in control, but if we are fighting MMA for a laugh they OWN me 100%, Once they have you down its all over rover , they tie you up like knots in string, so hourses for courses in my opinion. I do enjoy getting in the ring with MMA fighters it really shows your weakness as an allround fighter. I still think boxing is the best for the first 30 seconds of a fight if you were to get into trouble on the streets you can make an impact very quickly, if you havnt sorted it out by then RUN and dont look back.
Cheers
MCFC

Hey Stillsy, MMA Fighter here.....
UFC is one organisation, so it's like saying MLS is shit when discussing Football.

MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) is a varied sport where anything goes, including Boxing... so if you conclude that the sport is rubbish then you also conclude that Boxing is rubbish aswell as this is apart of the sport.

"How so? they're just rolling on the ground...."

Well it's far easier to strike stood up when nobody is trying to take you down.
When I spar with friends who come from a boxing background they own me outright as my boxing isn't as good, so my solution is to take their advantage away (their hand strikes) and use my advantage (my wrestling/jiujitsu) to minimalise the risk. watch the Randy Couture Vs. James Toney fight... he made James look like a 12yr old amateur as he simply took away his boxing ability.

Once on the floor using jiujitsu I can work around my opponents body to find a submission, if i see an opening (like maybe a trailing arm/leg) i can attempt the submission and hopefully gain a tap (win)
it makes it easier to get submissions against opponents who aren't aware of jiujitsu, who want to freely "smash their opponent" with punches as they leave their arms trailing after the punch.

The worst opponent for me is a boxer with decent takedown defense, as he can own me stood up and i cant take the guy down (lol)

So when they are "just rolling around" this isn't the case however I have seen fights in MMA where they have just lay ontop of each other and done nothing... this frustrates me more than anyone believe me... lay there and not looked for submissions or ways to get back on their feet.
But %99 of the time they are doing this as they are completely tired and this is one of the main ways to rest and have enough energy to carry on.

My advice is to try the sport yourself before you make a full opinion of it.

I'd be more than happy to invite you to places i've trained at over the years - usually classes are free for first timers.
My classes consist of seperate classes for many different styles of fighting including boxing, muay thai (kickboxing), jiujitsu, judo, greco roman wrestling, and the occasional homosexual tendency ;)

 

[pominoz]

The only problem i see with UFC is that they need to sort out the judges,an Asian fighter last weekend was clearly robbed of his fight.
Although the commentators said it was mainly a problem in Nevda.