Boycotting US stuff

Brewster's millions said:
I'm afraid that your figures are indeed nonsense and, because I'm a helpful chap and also because God loves a trier (even yourself), I'll show you the real figures and explain why you're wrong.

The first mistake you made was to just glibly accept the data you found as correct, and not question whether the figures quoted were in fact feasible. Most obviously, your data stated that total UK exports in 2024 were the rather dubious figure of USD509bn. At the average 2024 exchange rate, this amounts to just GBP398bn. Given that UK nominal GDP last year was GBP2.88 trillion, this would imply that total UK exports amounted to just under 14% of GDP.

This is obviously bollocks - the actual figure is 31% - and so a quick sense check would have told you that the figures were wrong. In fact the figures you found are (inaccurate) United Nations estimates of UK goods exports, not total exports, and so again the problem here is simply a lack of thought on your behalf.

Total UK exports in 2024 were actually GBP893.2bn; a bit of a difference. Exports to the US were GBP200.8bn (22.5% of the total) last year, while exports to Germany were GBP61.7bn (6.9%), France GBP46.9bn (5.2%) and the Netherlands GBP51bn (5.7%).

Exports in 2024 to the three EU countries you picked out accounted for 17.9% of the total, and were therefore equivalent to just under 80% of the value of exports to the US, as I've previously said. Again, very different from the 150% figure you believe to be true.

All the figures I've quoted here are from the ONS and a handy summary can be found in the Trade and investment core statistics book, published a couple of weeks ago.

I do hope you find this useful, along with @Alan Harper's Tash , @roubaixtuesday and particularly @Phil1, special guy that he is.
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hampshireblue said:
I'll be on the phone to Trading Economics first thing tomorrow because they clearly don't live up to:


"Reliability and Use

Trading Economics is generally considered a reliable source within the financial community due to its reliance on official data sources and regular fact-checking. Its data is used for market analysis, academic studies, corporate planning, and risk management. The platform's high number of referring domains indicates a strong digital authority and trust within the industry."

They're hardly a bunch of cowboys.

But you know the funniest thing, you've probably spent all afternoon just trying to prove BKB.
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He thinks I’ll read his cherry picked numbers. Funny he’s spent hours for no purpose.
 
hampshireblue said:
I'll be on the phone to Trading Economics first thing tomorrow because they clearly don't live up to:


"Reliability and Use

Trading Economics is generally considered a reliable source within the financial community due to its reliance on official data sources and regular fact-checking. Its data is used for market analysis, academic studies, corporate planning, and risk management. The platform's high number of referring domains indicates a strong digital authority and trust within the industry."

They're hardly a bunch of cowboys.

But you know the funniest thing, you've probably spent all afternoon just trying to prove BKB.
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Given that I told you the exact same figure yesterday evening (i.e. just under 80%) in response to something you posted about half an hour earlier, why do you believe I’ve spent all afternoon working out said figure?

Doesn’t really make sense does it? If you actually think about it, that is.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Given that I told you the exact same figure yesterday evening (i.e. just under 80%) in response to something you posted about half an hour earlier, why do you believe I’ve spent all afternoon working out said figure?

Doesn’t really make sense does it? If you actually think about it, that is.
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Sorry you may have missed my previous couple of questions as a follow up to your answer on the US administration:

Do you view Russia as our enemy?

And do you think we are at war with Russia?
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
I prefer American Eagle. Which I doubt are made in America. I’d check but I’m wearing them now and don’t want to pants myself at the airport.
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Sydney Sweeney is a marketing genius if she can get middle-aged (harrumph!) men to go into American Eagle for a pair of jeans!

Was it the metallic dress that put you over the top?

;-)
 
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Brewster's millions said:
Given that I told you the exact same figure yesterday evening (i.e. just under 80%) in response to something you posted about half an hour earlier, why do you believe I’ve spent all afternoon working out said figure?

Doesn’t really make sense does it? If you actually think about it, that is.
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Or maybe you're interpreting it incorrectly. If you're right, there are an awful lot of sources of information out there that are actually wrong. Anyway the fact remains, we as a nation decided to make ourselves worse off and many of those that chose to vote for that are now whinging endlessly about that.

United Kingdom’s Top Trading Partners​

Below is a list showcasing 25 of United Kingdom’s top trading partners in terms of export sales. That is, these are countries that imported the most UK shipments by dollar value during 2024. Also shown is each import country’s percentage of total UK exports.

  1. United States: US$71.3 billion (13.9% of total UK exports)
  2. mainland China: $46.6 billion (9.1%)
  3. Germany: $38.8 billion (7.6%)
  4. Netherlands: $33.7 billion (6.6%)
  5. Ireland: $29.3 billion (5.7%)
  6. Switzerland: $28.8 billion (5.6%)
  7. France: $28.5 billion (5.6%)
  8. Belgium: $21.6 billion (4.2%)
  9. United Arab Emirates: $12.3 billion (2.4%)
  10. Hong Kong: $11.9 billion (2.3%)
  11. Spain: $11.9 billion (2.3%)
  12. Italy: $11.2 billion (2.2%)
  13. India: $8.7 billion (1.7%)
  14. Poland: $8.4 billion (1.6%)
  15. Singapore: $8.1 billion (1.6%)
  16. Türkiye: $7.8 billion (1.5%)
  17. Japan: $7.6 billion (1.5%)
  18. Canada: $6.8 billion (1.3%)
  19. Sweden: $6.2 billion (1.2%)
  20. Australia: $5.6 billion (1.1%)
  21. Saudi Arabia: $5.1 billion (1%)
  22. South Korea: $4.8 billion (0.9%)
  23. Norway: $4.1 billion (0.8%)
  24. Azerbaijan: $3.8 billion (0.7%)
  25. Denmark: $3.4 billion (0.7%)
In 2024, over four-fifths (83.1%) of overall UK exports was delivered to the above 25 trade partners.

Increasing purchases from the United Kingdom by the greatest percentages were buyers in Azerbaijan (up 568.4% from 2023), mainland China (up 36.6%), United Arab Emirates (up 34%), Japan (up 10.9%) then Sweden (up 9.7%).

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Key Partners & Trends (2024 Data)
  • European Union (EU): The most significant partner overall, accounting for roughly 41% of UK exports and 51% of imports in goods and services.
  • United States (US): The largest single export market for the UK, also a major source of imports, a key focus for new trade deals.
  • Germany: Consistently a top partner, both as an export destination and a source of imports.
  • China: A rising power, becoming the UK's second-largest export partner by late 2024, though its share in total goods trade saw fluctuations.
  • Netherlands: A significant EU partner, featuring prominently in both exports and imports.
  • Ireland: A key EU trading partner, especially for exports.
 
hampshireblue said:
Or maybe you're interpreting it incorrectly. If you're right, there are an awful lot of sources of information out there that are actually wrong. Anyway the fact remains, we as a nation decided to make ourselves worse off and many of those that chose to vote for that are now whinging endlessly about that.

United Kingdom’s Top Trading Partners​

Below is a list showcasing 25 of United Kingdom’s top trading partners in terms of export sales. That is, these are countries that imported the most UK shipments by dollar value during 2024. Also shown is each import country’s percentage of total UK exports.

  1. United States: US$71.3 billion (13.9% of total UK exports)
  2. mainland China: $46.6 billion (9.1%)
  3. Germany: $38.8 billion (7.6%)
  4. Netherlands: $33.7 billion (6.6%)
  5. Ireland: $29.3 billion (5.7%)
  6. Switzerland: $28.8 billion (5.6%)
  7. France: $28.5 billion (5.6%)
  8. Belgium: $21.6 billion (4.2%)
  9. United Arab Emirates: $12.3 billion (2.4%)
  10. Hong Kong: $11.9 billion (2.3%)
  11. Spain: $11.9 billion (2.3%)
  12. Italy: $11.2 billion (2.2%)
  13. India: $8.7 billion (1.7%)
  14. Poland: $8.4 billion (1.6%)
  15. Singapore: $8.1 billion (1.6%)
  16. Türkiye: $7.8 billion (1.5%)
  17. Japan: $7.6 billion (1.5%)
  18. Canada: $6.8 billion (1.3%)
  19. Sweden: $6.2 billion (1.2%)
  20. Australia: $5.6 billion (1.1%)
  21. Saudi Arabia: $5.1 billion (1%)
  22. South Korea: $4.8 billion (0.9%)
  23. Norway: $4.1 billion (0.8%)
  24. Azerbaijan: $3.8 billion (0.7%)
  25. Denmark: $3.4 billion (0.7%)
In 2024, over four-fifths (83.1%) of overall UK exports was delivered to the above 25 trade partners.

Increasing purchases from the United Kingdom by the greatest percentages were buyers in Azerbaijan (up 568.4% from 2023), mainland China (up 36.6%), United Arab Emirates (up 34%), Japan (up 10.9%) then Sweden (up 9.7%).

OR:

Key Partners & Trends (2024 Data)
  • European Union (EU): The most significant partner overall, accounting for roughly 41% of UK exports and 51% of imports in goods and services.
  • United States (US): The largest single export market for the UK, also a major source of imports, a key focus for new trade deals.
  • Germany: Consistently a top partner, both as an export destination and a source of imports.
  • China: A rising power, becoming the UK's second-largest export partner by late 2024, though its share in total goods trade saw fluctuations.
  • Netherlands: A significant EU partner, featuring prominently in both exports and imports.
  • Ireland: A key EU trading partner, especially for exports.
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we should thank Starmer for that.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
I'm refusing to drive under a covered bridge.......
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Two years ago my new years resolution was bin off all billionaire owed SM, this year it was stop using Amazon. I've been thinking about what do for 2026 and it hadn't really occurred to me to bin off the USAs third* greatest cultural export !! In fairness I'd feel bad given you've already got the rest of them in the can. Also unless you're really good at hiding it, I don't think you are a sociopathic billionaire so you're not on the list come the glorious day.

(* Sorry but you can't (yet) compete with asteroid movies or the Pacific Rim franchise)
 
hampshireblue said:
BKB will be along shortly to tell us all he could have done so much better than Starmer.
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His politics and his thinking are the problem, not the solution.
Head far too up his own arse to ever come to that realisation though. Much easier to try and belittle and lord it over those he perceives below him.
 
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