Breaking records/stats thread

[East Level 2]

Genuinely reckon we should have a tactical 3rd place group stage exit some time in the next few years and give the europa league a go

I think that option disappears next season with the new CL format.
Top eight in the 36 team league go through, 9-16 and 17-24 play off for a place in the knock-out rounds but I've not read that the losers go into the Thursday League.

 

[Gary James]

Genuinely reckon we should have a tactical 3rd place group stage exit some time in the next few years and give the europa league a go

I definitely think that would’ve been a good option a few years back.

This week I was asked by someone preparing stats for NUFC’s return to Europe about City’s European record. It’s for a NUFC related publication/article and they’re trying to do comparisons between the English clubs (my guess is to try and say NUFC have a better Euro history than most, but they don’t!). They asked for a complete MCFC Euro breakdown ‘including the Fairs Cup and Intertoto’ - I wanted to reply ‘City have not finished that low’ (of course we have but the Intertoto was a bit like the Full Members unless you progressed to latter stages and the Fairs Cup wasn’t a UEFA tournament though it was important when NUFC won it).

I think winning European trophies - ANY trophy - is there forever in the record books and so winning the odd Europa League a few years back would possibly have helped City‘s profile a bit, afterall Utd/LFC /CFC etc talk about European trophies they’ve won often, not just European Cups.

My aim though would be to win as many CL as we can in next few years to put to shame the records of the others if we can - tall order but imagine how it would be if City had won more CLs than you know who by the end of the decade.

 

[Impeccable One]

I definitely think that would’ve been a good option a few years back.

This week I was asked by someone preparing stats for NUFC’s return to Europe about City’s European record. It’s for a NUFC related publication/article and they’re trying to do comparisons between the English clubs (my guess is to try and say NUFC have a better Euro history than most, but they don’t!). They asked for a complete MCFC Euro breakdown ‘including the Fairs Cup and Intertoto’ - I wanted to reply ‘City have not finished that low’ (of course we have but the Intertoto was a bit like the Full Members unless you progressed to latter stages and the Fairs Cup wasn’t a UEFA tournament though it was important when NUFC won it).

I think winning European trophies - ANY trophy - is there forever in the record books and so winning the odd Europa League a few years back would possibly have helped City‘s profile a bit, afterall Utd/LFC /CFC etc talk about European trophies they’ve won often, not just European Cups.

My aim though would be to win as many CL as we can in next few years to put to shame the records of the others if we can - tall order but imagine how it would be if City had won more CLs than you know who by the end of the decade.

Yeh, let’s wait until we get a bit “shit’r” (like United now) before ‘focussing’ on the Europa. Easier to think about when we’re on the way down, performance wise, rather than now when we’re at(near) the top of our game.

 

[Gazza]

I think that option disappears next season with the new CL format.
Top eight in the 36 team league go through, 9-16 and 17-24 play off for a place in the knock-out rounds but I've not read that the losers go into the Thursday League.

So, the team that finishes 24th could knock the team that finished 9th out?

 

[Gary James]

Yeh, let’s wait until we get a bit “shit’r” (like United now) before ‘focussing’ on the Europa. Easier to think about when we’re on the way down, performance wise, rather than now when we’re at(near) the top of our game.

I was thinking on the way up a few years back. Absolutely not now and not on the way down.

 

[Cobwebcat]

I was thinking on the way up a few years back. Absolutely not now and not on the way down.

The difference in money between the two competitions is huge. The main incentive with the Europa is to win it and get into the CL by the back door. We have never won the Europa Conference either!

 

[Impeccable One]

The difference in money between the two competitions is huge. The main incentive with the Europa is to win it and get into the CL by the back door. We have never won the Europa Conference either!

We’ll be happy to qualify for either Europa competition after our points deduction

 

[s1ty m]

I definitely think that would’ve been a good option a few years back.

This week I was asked by someone preparing stats for NUFC’s return to Europe about City’s European record. It’s for a NUFC related publication/article and they’re trying to do comparisons between the English clubs (my guess is to try and say NUFC have a better Euro history than most, but they don’t!). They asked for a complete MCFC Euro breakdown ‘including the Fairs Cup and Intertoto’ - I wanted to reply ‘City have not finished that low’ (of course we have but the Intertoto was a bit like the Full Members unless you progressed to latter stages and the Fairs Cup wasn’t a UEFA tournament though it was important when NUFC won it).

I think winning European trophies - ANY trophy - is there forever in the record books and so winning the odd Europa League a few years back would possibly have helped City‘s profile a bit, afterall Utd/LFC /CFC etc talk about European trophies they’ve won often, not just European Cups.

My aim though would be to win as many CL as we can in next few years to put to shame the records of the others if we can - tall order but imagine how it would be if City had won more CLs than you know who by the end of the decade.

Wasn't the Fairs Cup some sort of invitational thing?

 

[supercity88]

I definitely think that would’ve been a good option a few years back.

This week I was asked by someone preparing stats for NUFC’s return to Europe about City’s European record. It’s for a NUFC related publication/article and they’re trying to do comparisons between the English clubs (my guess is to try and say NUFC have a better Euro history than most, but they don’t!). They asked for a complete MCFC Euro breakdown ‘including the Fairs Cup and Intertoto’ - I wanted to reply ‘City have not finished that low’ (of course we have but the Intertoto was a bit like the Full Members unless you progressed to latter stages and the Fairs Cup wasn’t a UEFA tournament though it was important when NUFC won it).

I think winning European trophies - ANY trophy - is there forever in the record books and so winning the odd Europa League a few years back would possibly have helped City‘s profile a bit, afterall Utd/LFC /CFC etc talk about European trophies they’ve won often, not just European Cups.

My aim though would be to win as many CL as we can in next few years to put to shame the records of the others if we can - tall order but imagine how it would be if City had won more CLs than you know who by the end of the decade.

Success in Europe is more highly rated by clubs on the continent but ultimately would you want to be Sevilla and win the Europa League consistently or Real Madrid and win the CL. No one really cares about the other competitions unless they're not in the CL. Whilst it might be good to say "we've won every European trophy available" I'd rather say "we've got more CL titles than you".

The rags only have 3 in their long history in the competition. Now the monkey is off our back we have to go and win it again and again. Pep rightly said plenty have just one, it's about consistently winning it. That's the motivation the players need to have. Go and win it again and again, taste that success frequently. We've added Kovacic who has 4 even if he hasn't been a major part of those sides, that will drive the team. Let's go and at least tie things up with the rags whilst Pep is here!

I definitely thought about the Europa in our early days in the CL - help us make that steady progression and take some of the pressure off. But I don't think about that level anymore. It's only really talked about more because the rags and dippers have been in it, so the media here try to make it a bigger thing than it really is.

 

[Cobwebcat]

We’ll be happy to qualify for either Europa competition after our points deduction

They will start us on -30 we will get 100 = 70 = CL ;-)