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blue by birth said:
It wasn't the greatest game to watch but then again when we are up against a 10 man defence it's never going to be exciting is it.
When we move the ball quickly they don't have time to regroup as fast and we always look more likely to score, but last night the tempo was a bit slow.
Great finish by Erling and a vital 3 points.. winning whilst not at our fluent best is a good sign.
Hopefully Bournemouth will be a better game with another 3 points please.
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It's funny when the rags and dippers play these type of teams, they're accommodated with space and submission. Not a ten man wall with Yashin in the net.
 
remember arthur mann said:
It's funny when the rags and dippers play these type of teams, they're accommodated with space and submission. Not a ten man wall with Yashin in the net.
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Yeah, my neighbour said he watched the Brentford v Dippers and the Bees were wide open, little defensive discipline and that's how they ship four goals. Mind, we could have had four but for some last ditch defending and wayward finishing.
 
wolfie1988 said:
Quite amusing that last night, in hindsight. Fans losing the plot, Pep telling everybody to calm down, Pep losing the plot, players misplacing passes that they could complete in their sleep. Brilliant

Love an aggressive "Come on City"
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It was amusing, and ironic that it was Pep himself who was the most agitated person in the stadium for the most part, could tell he meant business though when he came back out for second half with no coat on.

One to forget but the 3 points won't be.
 
I think we will have a few more games like last night in the run in. Teams turn up to sit deep and counter, you can guarantee that Wolves, West Ham, Villa, Luton and united will play similar, hoping to keep a threat on the counter and set pieces. Arsenal might have a go.

I see this season statistically we’re more creative on the road than at home. When we’re away teams feel they have to give it a go so we get more space. We’re going to have get used to it.

Last night, it seemed like the Alvarez midfield experiment didn’t work, Foden had an off night and Bernardo was quiet. The balance was off again. It seems like the only setup that’s worked for us to get us really creating and controlling was as against Copenhagen. Which was effectively the champions league winning side with Walker for Akanji and Foden for Gundogan.

Pep hasn’t worked out how to get the best out of Doku, Nunes, Lewis, Alvarez or Gvardiol yet. He will though. Too often (like last night) we had creativity or control not both together. However that being said we are still creating enough chances but our finishing has been off. Everyone spoke about Haaland after Chelsea but both last night and Saturday, Bernardo and Alvarez missed great chances, failing to hit the target when presented with the opportunities. It seems we need to really batter some team to get confidence levels up as there’s a bit too much anxiety in our finishing at the moment. The pressure is on Haaland because we’re wasting a lot of chances.
 
pavelsrnicek said:
I think we will have a few more games like last night in the run in. Teams turn up to sit deep and counter, you can guarantee that Wolves, West Ham, Villa, Luton and united will play similar, hoping to keep a threat on the counter and set pieces. Arsenal might have a go.

I see this season statistically we’re more creative on the road than at home. When we’re away teams feel they have to give it a go so we get more space. We’re going to have get used to it.

Last night, it seemed like the Alvarez midfield experiment didn’t work, Foden had an off night and Bernardo was quiet. The balance was off again. It seems like the only setup that’s worked for us to get us really creating and controlling was as against Copenhagen. Which was effectively the champions league winning side with Walker for Akanji and Foden for Gundogan.

Pep hasn’t worked out how to get the best out of Doku, Nunes, Lewis, Alvarez or Gvardiol yet. He will though. Too often (like last night) we had creativity or control not both together. However that being said we are still creating enough chances but our finishing has been off. Everyone spoke about Haaland after Chelsea but both last night and Saturday, Bernardo and Alvarez missed great chances, failing to hit the target when presented with the opportunities. It seems we need to really batter some team to get confidence levels up as there’s a bit too much anxiety in our finishing at the moment. The pressure is on Haaland because we’re wasting a lot of chances.
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Will be interesting to see how these set up tonight. I bet they offer the Dippers a ramshackle, half-cock and collander defence.
 
Crooked_rain said:
You buy Haaland because he's the best striker in the world and can pull you out of the shit like last night and v Everton

His goals vs Everton ten days ago and last night might be the difference between us having 7 points from the last three games instead of 3 points

Because from where I was sitting, nobody else looked like they were going to score.

"Not a pep player" - it's such a nonsense statement because any player that scores over 50 goals of season and has scored against every Premier League team they played is any managers kind of player
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If yer can pass the ball, head the ball, shoot, AND score a goal, then yer a Pep player.
 
I've said it before with these games City should knock it around at the back and not attack.
Would park the bus teams just stay in their penalty and ours players in ours ?

Put the momentum on the opponents.

It would never happen but would be interesting what teams would do if we just parked the bus !
 
give it to gordon said:
I've said it before with these games City should knock it around at the back and not attack.
Would park the bus teams just stay in their penalty and ours players in ours ?

Put the momentum on the opponents.

It would never happen but would be interesting what teams would do if we just parked the bus !
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Isn't that what Brighton do ? invite the press and then play through it. Just don't think most teams would risk over commiting against us knowing we are more than capable of cutting through or with Ederson over a press. Especially teams that don't normally press because anothing worse than a half arsed press.
Seem to rememeber a few years ago a few more teams did try and press Ederson until they realised he could just ping it over them.
 
Phil1 said:
It’s hard to disagree with this tonight. Even when we had opportunities to counter we got just inside their half and stopped and recycled the ball to the back 4.
Wasn’t pretty tonight but we got through it.
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because we've got no real pace in the team
bobb broke away and kept the ball foden the same doku is explosive so they say but not over half the pitch only haaland and like last night needs right ball
still frustrating how we let teams set then pass it about
 
teams stay deep,they dont commit , if they did they would get thrashed, they start at 0-0 and 99% of teams would be delighted if it finished that way, pace wont get behind a defence that sits so deep, passing and movement will, we dont need fast players usually, we need clever players who can see a space and can pick a pass, when teams do need to come out then the faster players are more helpful, control,passing and intelligence has worked for us, i really cant see why people are a bit down at the moment.
 
give it to gordon said:
The holding on Haaland is getting fucking ridiculous every bloody game. Since when has rugby tackles become part of football ?
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It's blatant cheating by the opposition player and blatant cheating by the ref in not awarding the penalty. The influence on refs of morons like Danny Muppet who continue to massage penal offences by suggesting you don't want to give penalties for that. Well, what we saw was every opportunity to HOLD Haarland and the only thing the ref did, which they all do, is wag a finger before the corner is taken. I'd love to here what they say to these perennial foulers - If you are holding him when the kick's taken then I shall award a penalty is what the wanker should say. But Haaland is still grabbed and held and the ref has momentarily forgotten what he said, and what he should do. Holding is a penal offence, and the only conclusion you can offer is that they just don't want to be the ref who gives five pens in one half for a centre forward being held. The first fuckin' thing defenders do at corners is put both arms round the nearest torso. And yet, anywhere outside the area and they will penalise the slightest nudge, whether it was a foul or not. They are politically driven apparatchiks who toe the PiGMOL line and it trashes any notion of what is written in the LotG.
 
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