That blatantly wasn’t true in the last election.You mean ...
a) make me slightly better off
b) not make me slightly better off
Actually Heseltine insited that most of the money for any property sold should stay with the local authority and be spent on building new social housing, and that was pushed by him until 83 when he moved to the MOD.
He was of the opinion for every house sold another one was gonna be needed to replace it.
The Scheme was not a new idea anyway, it was first muted by labour in the 50s but became a popular tory concept in the early 70s.
Will admit that I'm not the sharpest knife, but at the same time, I have a deep compassion for my fellow man, and truly believe we should all benefit from living in a country such as Britain.
I find working class Tories repugnant and to be somewhat harsh, class traitors. The Conservatives have bled the poorest dry whilst giving breaks to their mates. There's literally no justification. They treat the North with such disdain, it genuinely boggles the mind.
I assume most aren't going to like this next part but it's my lived experience, so, the only things that I can see that would attract working class Tories is picking on the types of people the Daily Mail under Dacre used to constantly harass, that being the poor, vulnerable, asylum seekers, immigrants, the EU, single mothers.
Doubt this'll be mega popular because a large section of this forum are clearly on the right, which I can excuse in terms of us supporting the best team in the land, but outside of it, I find such people toxic. I stopped posting a few years back, because of the right wing rhetoric in off topic, and it shocked me a bit, to be honest because the general attitude seems to be, I'm alright, fuck everyone else. And I just can't do that.
You will probably ruffle some people feathers with that last paragraph, but I liked thenpost because at least it is an honest position.
I can kinda respect tories who genuinely dislike the left because they believe in conservatism and are opposed to it, because at least they are honest and have conviction, I can respect them but I could never agree or like their position.
I don't get people who can choose to swap between socialism or conservatism depending if it suits them.
Maybe I am just old fashioned
Will admit that I'm not the sharpest knife, but at the same time, I have a deep compassion for my fellow man, and truly believe we should all benefit from living in a country such as Britain.
I find working class Tories repugnant and to be somewhat harsh, class traitors. The Conservatives have bled the poorest dry whilst giving breaks to their mates. There's literally no justification. They treat the North with such disdain, it genuinely boggles the mind.
I assume most aren't going to like this next part but it's my lived experience, so, the only things that I can see that would attract working class Tories is picking on the types of people the Daily Mail under Dacre used to constantly harass, that being the poor, vulnerable, asylum seekers, immigrants, the EU, single mothers.
Doubt this'll be mega popular because a large section of this forum are clearly on the right, which I can excuse in terms of us supporting the best team in the land, but outside of it, I find such people toxic. I stopped posting a few years back, because of the right wing rhetoric in off topic, and it shocked me a bit, to be honest because the general attitude seems to be, I'm alright, fuck everyone else. And I just can't do that.
People don't. They live in the rational middle where they like/dislike elements of both and vote for the party that meets their perspective most in that particular election year. The over simplification and black and white brush strokes just create squabbles and lead to a chasm in the middle as the extremists pull each side to the edges until the elastic band snaps and everyone butts heads in the middle, has to talk and come up with rational compromises that push society forward.
You should have just stopped at your first line.Will admit that I'm not the sharpest knife, but at the same time, I have a deep compassion for my fellow man, and truly believe we should all benefit from living in a country such as Britain.
I find working class Tories repugnant and to be somewhat harsh, class traitors. The Conservatives have bled the poorest dry whilst giving breaks to their mates. There's literally no justification. They treat the North with such disdain, it genuinely boggles the mind.
I assume most aren't going to like this next part but it's my lived experience, so, the only things that I can see that would attract working class Tories is picking on the types of people the Daily Mail under Dacre used to constantly harass, that being the poor, vulnerable, asylum seekers, immigrants, the EU, single mothers.
Doubt this'll be mega popular because a large section of this forum are clearly on the right, which I can excuse in terms of us supporting the best team in the land, but outside of it, I find such people toxic. I stopped posting a few years back, because of the right wing rhetoric in off topic, and it shocked me a bit, to be honest because the general attitude seems to be, I'm alright, fuck everyone else. And I just can't do that.
You should have just stopped at your first line.
Woefully ignorant and ridiculous post.
He’s perfectly entitled to think that and post it and I am perfectly entitled to call it the crap post it is.Whilst that made me laugh he’s entitled to his view mate and like he says it’s based on his life experience. Disagree, but don’t insult the man.
Fucking liberals ;)
He’s perfectly entitled to think that and post it and I am perfectly entitled to call it the crap post it is.
The fact he still thinks class warfare is relevant sums it up.
It’s 20th century socialism at its worst. The kind of idiot that would beat up his colleagues for not striking with him.
Err because I read it.How did you get those two things from his post?
Err because I read it.
“class traitors”
Well at least I read it correctly. You don’t think calling people traitors to their class incites violence?That’s only your inference though, I'll give you that as I skimmed over that bit. There is a difference between merely holding ideas of loyalty and warfare though, he hasn't articulated what flows from that.
But the bit about violence wasn't necessary and stretching the inference too far.
You didn't say he was likely to incite violence, you said he would carry it out. It's a term that has also been used by people further up the class chain . I'm not sure that point stands up unless the insult comes with an implied punishment.Well at least I read it correctly. You don’t think calling people traitors to their class incites violence?
You might want to read my post again.You didn't say he was likely to incite violence, you said he would carry it out. It's a term that has also been used by people further up the class chain . I'm not sure that point stands up unless the insult comes with an implied punishment.
You didn't say he was likely to incite violence, you said he would carry it out. It's a term that has also been used by people further up the class chain . I'm not sure that point stands up unless the insult comes with an implied punishment.