Can we cancel player's contracts??

[AntonDonJuan]

Say like Bellamy and Bridge for example. If we offer them say £1.5m each to cancel their contract and they become a free agent? That would get them off the books and then without a transfer fee another could could pay them more wages

Or is that too simple??

 

[ifiwasarichfan]

Your asking them both to walk away with around 5 months money. Would you leave your job for 5 months money?

A better and cheaper idea would be to hire a "Hit man".

 

[gingerthai]

With Rocky you could use a pea shooter and see him off.

 

[The Pink Panther]

I would imagine that as the player is under contract that both parties have agreed, the player would expect to receive his full salary for the term of the contract if the club just wanted to terminate it.
So if Bellamy is on £80k per week and has 18 months left, that would be a pay off of 78 weeks x £80k
I'm sure there will be allowances in the contract about selling the player on or for the case of a career ending injury

 

[jay_mcfc]

Your asking them both to walk away with around 5 months money. Would you leave your job for 5 months money?

A better and cheaper idea would be to hire a "Hit man".

They would then be on free transfers and will get a signing on fee plus wages from another club. The whole thing is getting a bit silly but we only have ourselves to blame.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The club was more than happy to agree these contracts when we were growing as a club. The fact that we appear to have moved on should not give us the right to walk away from those obligations.

I don't know why people get so worked up about this. It's not your money and they are players who we felt we needed to get us where we are today. Be grateful that we've moved as quickly as we have and look upon those players as stepping stones in that process.

Move on, nothing to see here.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Your asking them both to walk away with around 5 months money. Would you leave your job for 5 months money?

A better and cheaper idea would be to hire a "Hit man".

They would then be on free transfers and will get a signing on fee plus wages from another club. The whole thing is getting a bit silly but we only have ourselves to blame.

But I'm sure our club wouldn't object to both going on free transfers now if someone else was prepared to cover their salaries

 

[AntonDonJuan]

The club was more than happy to agree these contracts when we were growing as a club. The fact that we appear to have moved on should not give us the right to walk away from those obligations.

I don't know why people get so worked up about this. It's not your money and they are players who we felt we needed to get us where we are today. Be grateful that we've moved as quickly as we have and look upon those players as stepping stones in that process.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Rather than being an arrogant prick about things, it quite clearly is a problem that we can't just ignore

We've got players sat on £100k+ a week just turning up to training then going home again every week that will never play for us again, we need to get rid of their wages, and seeing as though nobody will buy them then other avenues need to be explored

 

[dctid]

Say like Bellamy and Bridge for example. If we offer them say £1.5m each to cancel their contract and they become a free agent? That would get them off the books and then without a transfer fee another could could pay them more wages

Or is that too simple??

you could pay up the contracts and let them move on a free - that would be ridiculas better to keep loaning them out and at least their wages or part of are paid by the club that loans them

Bridge is allegedly 90K a week - which is approx 4.6 - 4.7 Million a year so offering them 1.5 Million aint really going to encourage them to move

 

[RandomJ]

I said in another thread we should buy them out of the contracts. Pay them the money they were due to earn from them and they'll become free agents. It will cost us money but they'll be off our books for good.

 

[The Pink Panther]

The club was more than happy to agree these contracts when we were growing as a club. The fact that we appear to have moved on should not give us the right to walk away from those obligations.

I don't know why people get so worked up about this. It's not your money and they are players who we felt we needed to get us where we are today. Be grateful that we've moved as quickly as we have and look upon those players as stepping stones in that process.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Rather than being an arrogant prick about things, it quite clearly is a problem that we can't just ignore

We've got players sat on £100k+ a week just turning up to training then going home again every week that will never play for us again, we need to get rid of their wages, and seeing as though nobody will buy them then other avenues need to be explored

There's only Bellamy and Bridge left now Ant and I fully expect both to be out on loan if not gone for good before Wednesday
Liverpool or Everton for Bellamy, QPR, Bolton or Blackburn for Bridge

 

[117 M34]

If we did it wowuld coun towards FFP where as thier wages won't

 

[AntonDonJuan]

There's only Bellamy and Bridge left now Ant and I fully expect both to be out on loan if not gone for good before Wednesday
Liverpool or Everton for Bellamy, QPR, Bolton or Blackburn for Bridge

But then what happens when they all come back at the end of the season?

We will end up with Adebayor, RSC, Bridge and Bellamy all turning up for training again and nobody will buy them a year older when they know we will loan them out

If i was Bellamy, and City said "Here's £1.5m if you leave" i'd take it

He might lose out on £3m but the thing is, he's a crock and the longer he stays at City, the more nobody will touch him. If he wants one final long term contract he needs to move now before he becomes untouchable with his knees and wage demands. He would find another club no problem, who would probably pay him similar wages and a big signing on fee and he'd have a longer term deal

 

[dctid]

There's only Bellamy and Bridge left now Ant and I fully expect both to be out on loan if not gone for good before Wednesday
Liverpool or Everton for Bellamy, QPR, Bolton or Blackburn for Bridge

But then what happens when they all come back at the end of the season?

We will end up with Adebayor, RSC, Bridge and Bellamy all turning up for training again and nobody will buy them a year older when they know we will loan them out

If i was Bellamy, and City said "Here's £1.5m if you leave" i'd take it

He might lose out on £3m but the thing is, he's a crock and the longer he stays at City, the more nobody will touch him. If he wants one final long term contract he needs to move now before he becomes untouchable with his knees and wage demands. He would find another club no problem, who would probably pay him similar wages and a big signing on fee and he'd have a longer term deal

There are plenty of takers for Bellars - maybe not the clubs he wants but he wont have any problem getting a club - the big problem in getting rid of these players is their salaries not necessarily their quality

 

[RandomJ]

There's only Bellamy and Bridge left now Ant and I fully expect both to be out on loan if not gone for good before Wednesday
Liverpool or Everton for Bellamy, QPR, Bolton or Blackburn for Bridge

But then what happens when they all come back at the end of the season?

We will end up with Adebayor, RSC, Bridge and Bellamy all turning up for training again and nobody will buy them a year older when they know we will loan them out

If i was Bellamy, and City said "Here's £1.5m if you leave" i'd take it

He might lose out on £3m but the thing is, he's a crock and the longer he stays at City, the more nobody will touch him. If he wants one final long term contract he needs to move now before he becomes untouchable with his knees and wage demands. He would find another club no problem, who would probably pay him similar wages and a big signing on fee and he'd have a longer term deal

But unfortunatley money comes first. These guys have the easiest job in the world. Go to training few times a week then go home and pick up £90k+ a week. Why would they give that up?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The club was more than happy to agree these contracts when we were growing as a club. The fact that we appear to have moved on should not give us the right to walk away from those obligations.

I don't know why people get so worked up about this. It's not your money and they are players who we felt we needed to get us where we are today. Be grateful that we've moved as quickly as we have and look upon those players as stepping stones in that process.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Rather than being an arrogant prick about things, it quite clearly is a problem that we can't just ignore

We've got players sat on £100k+ a week just turning up to training then going home again every week that will never play for us again, we need to get rid of their wages, and seeing as though nobody will buy them then other avenues need to be explored

I fail to see how what I have posted makes me an arrogant prick, or at least any more than I already am :-)

I agree that other avenues need to be explored, but I do not understand why people get so worked up about it. The club is in great hands and I trust them to get this right. I am not going to get into a lather about Wayne Bridge 'stealing a living' and don't think anyone else should too. It is so insignificant (and, by the way, extraneous to FFP), that it is rendered irrelevant in relation to everything else that is going on at the club.

Did people seriously think this wouldn't happen in going from relegation candidates to one of the two strongest teams in the League in the space of three years? If they did then they are the arrogant ones although I wouldn't stoop so low as to call them pricks.

 

[The Pink Panther]

There's only Bellamy and Bridge left now Ant and I fully expect both to be out on loan if not gone for good before Wednesday
Liverpool or Everton for Bellamy, QPR, Bolton or Blackburn for Bridge

But then what happens when they all come back at the end of the season?

We will end up with Adebayor, RSC, Bridge and Bellamy all turning up for training again and nobody will buy them a year older when they know we will loan them out

If i was Bellamy, and City said "Here's £1.5m if you leave" i'd take it

He might lose out on £3m but the thing is, he's a crock and the longer he stays at City, the more nobody will touch him. If he wants one final long term contract he needs to move now before he becomes untouchable with his knees and wage demands. He would find another club no problem, who would probably pay him similar wages and a big signing on fee and he'd have a longer term deal

If I knew I was a crock in the twilight of my career, why would I give up on £3m?
Bellamy will go somewhere if he's guaranteed that money.
Bridge is a different matter altogether. As we've seen from his Chelsea days he's quite happy to collect splinters in his arse for big money, but if a localish team or a London club comes in for him and he's guaranteed his dosh, he will go out on loan as well.
Yes they may all return at the end of the season, but all of them know they have no future at City and if they want to play football they have to go elsewhere.
There's also the January transfer window when clubs are desperate.
It also wouldn't surprise me at all if there was an agreed figure in place for Spurs to buy Ade at the end of the season if they want him.

 

[southaustralianblue]

There are no ffp implications and the club can afford it. Bobby has made his view clear on these players so there is no concern about dissention in the dressing room. What you are really saying is you are sick of your non city mates taking the piss out of you for all the money we are spending on players we arn't using. Me too, but the truth is that that criticism is in the same basket as 'how can mancini hold all the egos in check'. It's the desparate wailing of those who can not longer slag off what we do on the park. Seriously, don't worry about it

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

There are no ffp implications and the club can afford it. Bobby has made his view clear on these players so there is no concern about dissention in the dressing room. What you are really saying is you are sick of your non city mates taking the piss out of you for all the money we are spending on players we arn't using. Me too, but the truth is that that criticism is in the same basket as 'how can mancini hold all the egos in check'. It's the desparate wailing of those who can not longer slag off what we do on the park. Seriously, don't worry about it

Well said.

Although the OP probably thinks you are an 'arrogant prick' now.

It is one of the last sticks they have to beat us with now. Let them have their fun. I suspect Wayne Bridge will be the last thing on my mind, come May.

 

[SWP's back]

The club was more than happy to agree these contracts when we were growing as a club. The fact that we appear to have moved on should not give us the right to walk away from those obligations.

I don't know why people get so worked up about this. It's not your money and they are players who we felt we needed to get us where we are today. Be grateful that we've moved as quickly as we have and look upon those players as stepping stones in that process.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Rather than being an arrogant prick about things, it quite clearly is a problem that we can't just ignore

We've got players sat on £100k+ a week just turning up to training then going home again every week that will never play for us again, we need to get rid of their wages, and seeing as though nobody will buy them then other avenues need to be explored

Paying up the contract would be classed as renegotiating them them and as such, would count towards FFP where as they don't count at present.

As for being a prick, I would say that you are doing that fairly well if you don't see that is exactly what the club are doing getting rid of Ade, RSC, Weiss and others.