Capital Punishment.

If the "state" takes action and you agree with that action then surely if the "state" got it wrong you should share that guilt? Or are we going to argue that we only support the right decision and when/if it goes wrong that it is someone elses fault?
 
Palerider said:
If the "state" takes action and you agree with that action then surely if the "state" got it wrong you should share that guilt? Or are we going to argue that we only support the right decision and when/if it goes wrong that it is someone elses fault?
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There are some cases where the evidence is irrefutable.
The ones I mentioned previously just being a few of them.
In those straightforward cases the perpetrator(s) should be summarily despatched to meet their maker. Also, in such cases, mental health should not be a consideration.
This country is a shambles at the moment, ill discipline, no respect for the rule of law, half baked theories coming from intelligentsia, feeble government which 'goes with the flow' and agenda driven people disrupting daily life are just some issues facing us.
 
Grassland Blue said:
There are some cases where the evidence is irrefutable.
The ones I mentioned previously just being a few of them.
In those straightforward cases the perpetrator(s) should be summarily despatched to meet their maker. Also, in such cases, mental health should not be a consideration.
This country is a shambles at the moment, ill discipline, no respect for the rule of law, half baked theories coming from intelligentsia, feeble government which 'goes with the flow' and agenda driven people disrupting daily life are just some issues facing us.
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There is never a case where the evidence is irrefutable. There is never a case where it is straight forward either. What you are referring to is the balance of all probability.
 
SamTheGuru said:
There is never a case where the evidence is irrefutable. There is never a case where it is straight forward either. What you are referring to is the balance of all probability.
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No.
There are cases where the evidence is irrefutable. For example where a soldier (off duty) is lying on the pavement with massive and bloody wounds whilst the perpetrator is stood, arms aloft holding a bloody weapon, I think that is clearly irrefutable.
 
Grassland Blue said:
No.
There are cases where the evidence is irrefutable. For example where a soldier (off duty) is lying on the pavement with massive and bloody wounds whilst the perpetrator is stood, arms aloft holding a bloody weapon, I think that is clearly irrefutable.
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From what you have described, by definition it is not irrefutable.
 
SamTheGuru said:
From what you have described, by definition it is not irrefutable.
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I don’t know what your definition of irrefutable is. CCTV of them purchasing the knives that were used in the attack, multiple witnesses seeing them use the car in the attack, then get out and murder Lee Rigby with the knives they had bought, staying at the scene after to say why they did it, and at least one of them apologising for it later.
I’m willing to listen to arguments against capital punishment, but the one that says the evidence can never be irrefutable is completely false.
 
Here's one that should be topped immediately.

Murdered at Bescot stadium station. Many blues will know this station.

R -v- Deng Chol Majek - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

In the Crown Court at Coventry 30 January 2026 Sentencing Remarks of The Hon Mr Justice Soole Between: R -v- Deng Chol Majek
www.judiciary.uk www.judiciary.uk
 
Palerider said:
If the "state" takes action and you agree with that action then surely if the "state" got it wrong you should share that guilt? Or are we going to argue that we only support the right decision and when/if it goes wrong that it is someone elses fault?
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What about action like putting someone in jail, we all agree that some people need to serve time in a prison. Should we all share the guilt for that?
What about someone who is released and commits another crime, do the second chancers rehab crowd feel guilt about that?
 
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mancityvstoke said:
Here's one that should be topped immediately.

Murdered at Bescot stadium station. Many blues will know this station.

R -v- Deng Chol Majek - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

In the Crown Court at Coventry 30 January 2026 Sentencing Remarks of The Hon Mr Justice Soole Between: R -v- Deng Chol Majek
www.judiciary.uk www.judiciary.uk
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Fucking animal. It boils my piss how animals like this are free to walk around in this country. We don’t even know who they are, what they’ve done in their own country and what their intentions are.

An innocent woman’s life taken and a child growing up without his mother. Chain him up and dump him in the English channel.
 
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