Car insurance

Just had a conversation on this very topic with a friend on Facebook. She's 27, has 7 years no claims, drives a small cheap car, but lives in Oldham - £1,000. It's ridiculous; the insurance industry have got you by the bollocks in England. Over here, it's a flat 5% of the car's value and anyone with a licence can drive it fully comp.
 
Do not get your mum or dad to insure themselves onto your car and you then put yourself as a driver down. It is illegal. If the car is in your name, you must be the main driver on the policy. I did this for 3 years without knowing it was illegal then i had to bite the bullet when i found out about it. It is called "fronting" and if you get found out, the consequences are not good at all.

Here, read this mate, not worth the risk.

<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/moneybox/7052569.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/m ... 052569.stm</a><br /><br />-- Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:12 pm --<br /><br />Insurance is a total piss take. Im 23, drive a 2.2 mondeo ST, i am a member of the IAM group, and i pay £1000 a year. I tried to tell the insurance about putting a de-cat for the exhaust which is better for the engine and the environment and also increases the bhp by 30 and they said it will go up to £1750 a year!!!
 
Dubai Blue said:
Just had a conversation on this very topic with a friend on Facebook. She's 27, has 7 years no claims, drives a small cheap car, but lives in Oldham - £1,000. It's ridiculous; the insurance industry have got you by the bollocks in England. Over here, it's a flat 5% of the car's value and anyone with a licence can drive it fully comp.

She got points on her license or something? must be based on her postcode seeing as Oldham is a dive. also get knocked down for immobiliser, tracker and off road parking. also depends on what your purpose of use is for, domestic & pleasure, garaged down a drive, immobilser and knocked my quote right down. 5% of the value thats quality though.
 
adamgregory said:
Dubai Blue said:
Just had a conversation on this very topic with a friend on Facebook. She's 27, has 7 years no claims, drives a small cheap car, but lives in Oldham - £1,000. It's ridiculous; the insurance industry have got you by the bollocks in England. Over here, it's a flat 5% of the car's value and anyone with a licence can drive it fully comp.

She got points on her license or something? must be based on her postcode seeing as Oldham is a dive. also get knocked down for immobiliser, tracker and off road parking. also depends on what your purpose of use is for, domestic & pleasure, garaged down a drive, immobilser and knocked my quote right down. 5% of the value thats quality though.
That's my point. They take so much shit into account in England that is way beyond your control. It's beyond ridiculous. Insurance stops being insurance when they take into account every tiny little detail. What's she meant to do? Move house?

5% of the car's value works a treat here. I believe it's similar in many other places as well, with the car being insured rather than the driver. Drive a top-notch car and you get stung, but you can afford it. Drive a normal car and you're fine. And we can all jump into each other's cars and drive them whenever need be. There's no theft here, so they don't have to take that into account, but they do drive like utter dickheads, so accidents are much more common than back home.
 
Dubai Blue, so let me get this right. Say i owned a ford focus and was insured (value of the car say £15k) and you owned a bentley continental GT ( value of car £150k) i can drive your car on my insurance fully comp?
 
rickmcfc said:
Dubai Blue, so let me get this right. Say i owned a ford focus and was insured (value of the car say £15k) and you owned a bentley continental GT ( value of car £150k) i can drive your car on my insurance fully comp?
You wouldn't be driving it on your insurance, you'd be driving it on mine as it's the car that is insured, not the driver. So as long as you have a licence, you can hop into any car and drive it home.

Of course there are down sides to this method of insurance, but it works very well in places where theft doesn't need to be taken into consideration. I probably wouldn't be such a fan of it if I was a 60-year-old Bentley driver with 35 years of no claims though!!
 
car insurance has gone up a lot this year, I got my renewal quote and it was £452 last year I paid £351, I phoned them and asked why it had gone up so much and they blamed it on the bad weather we had and all the claims that had gone in. I spent a night going on all the sites and the least I could get it for was £378....bobbins, its the biggest price fixing legalised scam going. What gets me is after shelling out if you actually use it then it will cost you another £250 or whatever your excess is, its a legalised con and there is nothing we can do about it
 
charliebigspuds said:
car insurance has gone up a lot this year, I got my renewal quote and it was £452 last year I paid £351, I phoned them and asked why it had gone up so much and they blamed it on the bad weather we had and all the claims that had gone in. I spent a night going on all the sites and the least I could get it for was £378....bobbins, its the biggest price fixing legalised scam going. What gets me is after shelling out if you actually use it then it will cost you another £250 or whatever your excess is, its a legalised con and there is nothing we can do about it

mine went up by £50 this year too pal, even though it was another year of no claims, I challenged it and like yourself got told it was to do with all the claims from the snow we had at the start of the year, I wouldnt mind but why should I have to pay for the inneptitude of some 20 year old wanker who thought it would be fun to go on Tesco car park at portwood and do donuts, lose control and pile straight into a street light with his Megane?
 
adamgregory said:
charliebigspuds said:
car insurance has gone up a lot this year, I got my renewal quote and it was £452 last year I paid £351, I phoned them and asked why it had gone up so much and they blamed it on the bad weather we had and all the claims that had gone in. I spent a night going on all the sites and the least I could get it for was £378....bobbins, its the biggest price fixing legalised scam going. What gets me is after shelling out if you actually use it then it will cost you another £250 or whatever your excess is, its a legalised con and there is nothing we can do about it

mine went up by £50 this year too pal, even though it was another year of no claims, I challenged it and like yourself got told it was to do with all the claims from the snow we had at the start of the year, I wouldnt mind but why should I have to pay for the inneptitude of some 20 year old wanker who thought it would be fun to go on Tesco car park at portwood and do donuts, lose control and pile straight into a street light with his Megane?

exactly, we have always been told that insurance is on an individual basis, if you drive carefully then you are rewarded for it, I have now got 6 years no claims and the guy also said that after five it doesn't come into effect, they are screwing everyone because they know that they can because we need it by law. There is deffo price fixing going on too
 
adamgregory said:
charliebigspuds said:
car insurance has gone up a lot this year, I got my renewal quote and it was £452 last year I paid £351, I phoned them and asked why it had gone up so much and they blamed it on the bad weather we had and all the claims that had gone in. I spent a night going on all the sites and the least I could get it for was £378....bobbins, its the biggest price fixing legalised scam going. What gets me is after shelling out if you actually use it then it will cost you another £250 or whatever your excess is, its a legalised con and there is nothing we can do about it

mine went up by £50 this year too pal, even though it was another year of no claims, I challenged it and like yourself got told it was to do with all the claims from the snow we had at the start of the year, I wouldnt mind but why should I have to pay for the inneptitude of some 20 year old wanker who thought it would be fun to go on Tesco car park at portwood and do donuts, lose control and pile straight into a street light with his Megane?
Surely the whole insurance industry is based on risk. But it seems that in England, insurance companies aren't willing to take any risk on. Much better to pretty much fix the entire market and more than cover any potential losses by massively over charging everyone. It's one great big cartel. Do any of them really have any great motivation to masively undercut their competitors? They could all afford to do it, but in whose interest would it be? Certainly not there's.
 

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