Cavani Speculation/News (part 5)

[NipHolmes]

Fuckinhell nip I told you mourinho was going to Chelsea since last December,when you thought he was a done deal here
Shame your mate didn't tell you that one pal :)

Slightly out on your timeline TCM but i'm not knocking your gamblers instinct.

The Mourinho decision was made in March the minute Simeone signed a new deal............

Cheers Dan. That's cemented that one.

I can recall Simeone actually being Emenalo's choice after impressing with what he got out that Athletico team which damaged Chelsea with an inferior team. Pellegrini was an attraction too.<br /><br />-- Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:35 pm --<br /><br />

Its ok having a target value in mind but like BS says there is only one for sale and three potential bidders = silly price. A striker is our number one target and if something else has to give then so be it.

I suspect that Madrid feel Suarez will save them 20 million plus want less wages than Cavani so will look there to replace Higuain. I really see it as between us and Chelsea - and I genuinely believe neither club is prepared to get near the buyout considering the money which still would need to be paid to Cavani and his entourage.

There's a reason Falcao went to Monaco ... nobody else was willing to get near his buy out either. Both players are simply overpriced to a point where it's just not clever to pay the types of sums being demanded. Again, remember that you will be paying 50 million plus in wages over four years too. It's just not a deal which is practical unless the player comes with huge marketing potential ala Ronaldo/Messi/Aguero. Cavani's Uruguayan and Falcao Columbian, so their off the field value simply can't justify the mega fees involved.

I'm in agreement with you. My original discussion with NH was that the fee was the final stumbling block. If we agree that the club have already agreed terms with the player and we have already had one bid rejected then we are looking at a gap of c. £10-20m. Now the Isco deal is dead, then should we look to make the first move and kill the issue by using that part of the budget to seal cavani? Surely that would not alter the bottom line even if we have overpaid for him, unless we still want another Isco type playmaker to add to an already bulging midfield.

I think we are still in for a left sided player to be honest. I hope, pray and cross my fingers it's Arda Turan. Bale would be a dream but not likely, this season anyway.

 

[kp789]

Luckily Mancini was found out

It was the only thing that really mattered for those who could see the damage he was doing.

Explain further? Unless we are talking about his ignorance toward the academy.

 

[Petrovs left peg]

I agree with you. He isn't a marquee name and that's massive. Aguero, Rooney and Balotelli are. Amortisation would be like 20m a season too!

Where fo you think he will go?

It's very difficult to call and I could make a compelling case for him going to City, Chelsea, or Madrid. As I said though, instinct and a bit of a logic tells me we haven't walked away from that deal completely yet which is a good sign for all those who really want him.

For me, if we're going after a stupid money player I'd be targeting Bale or Rooney. Signing either player would for me make us favourites for the title.

Bale all day for me. I'd even sacrifice a striker to make it happen and would buy Negredo as Mario and Balotelli replacement.

oi. You were having a go at me for being out of sync with FFP earlier!!!

And we can't replace Mario and Balotelli either ;)

 

[NipHolmes]

It's very difficult to call and I could make a compelling case for him going to City, Chelsea, or Madrid. As I said though, instinct and a bit of a logic tells me we haven't walked away from that deal completely yet which is a good sign for all those who really want him.

For me, if we're going after a stupid money player I'd be targeting Bale or Rooney. Signing either player would for me make us favourites for the title.

Bale all day for me. I'd even sacrifice a striker to make it happen and would buy Negredo as Mario and Balotelli replacement.

oi. You were having a go at me for being out of sync with FFP earlier!!!

Dreams my friend.

Arda Turan much more likely and attainable.

It's a shame a younger Bellamy isn't out there. His talent with Milners attitude and he'd be world class.

 

[NQCitizen]

Bale all day for me. I'd even sacrifice a striker to make it happen and would buy Negredo as Mario and Balotelli replacement.

oi. You were having a go at me for being out of sync with FFP earlier!!!

Dreams my friend.

Arda Turan much more likely and attainable.

It's a shame a younger Bellamy isn't out there. His talent with Milners attitude and he'd be world class.

That's Bernard! (Possibly)

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Fuckinhell nip I told you mourinho was going to Chelsea since last December,when you thought he was a done deal here
Shame your mate didn't tell you that one pal :)

Slightly out on your timeline TCM but i'm not knocking your gamblers instinct.

The Mourinho decision was made in March the minute Simeone signed a new deal............

I knew long before them though dan :)
Your right though its all gamblers instincts,and some good info off here which you have helped with pal.

 

[Atunei]

Fuckinhell nip I told you mourinho was going to Chelsea since last December,when you thought he was a done deal here
Shame your mate didn't tell you that one pal :)

Slightly out on your timeline TCM but i'm not knocking your gamblers instinct.

The Mourinho decision was made in March the minute Simeone signed a new deal............

Cheers Dan. That's cemented that one.

I can recall Simeone actually being Emenalo's choice after impressing with what he got out that Athletico team which damaged Chelsea with an inferior team. Pellegrini was an attraction too.

-- Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:35 pm --

I suspect that Madrid feel Suarez will save them 20 million plus want less wages than Cavani so will look there to replace Higuain. I really see it as between us and Chelsea - and I genuinely believe neither club is prepared to get near the buyout considering the money which still would need to be paid to Cavani and his entourage.

There's a reason Falcao went to Monaco ... nobody else was willing to get near his buy out either. Both players are simply overpriced to a point where it's just not clever to pay the types of sums being demanded. Again, remember that you will be paying 50 million plus in wages over four years too. It's just not a deal which is practical unless the player comes with huge marketing potential ala Ronaldo/Messi/Aguero. Cavani's Uruguayan and Falcao Columbian, so their off the field value simply can't justify the mega fees involved.

I'm in agreement with you. My original discussion with NH was that the fee was the final stumbling block. If we agree that the club have already agreed terms with the player and we have already had one bid rejected then we are looking at a gap of c. £10-20m. Now the Isco deal is dead, then should we look to make the first move and kill the issue by using that part of the budget to seal cavani? Surely that would not alter the bottom line even if we have overpaid for him, unless we still want another Isco type playmaker to add to an already bulging midfield.

I think we are still in for a left sided player to be honest. I hope, pray and cross my fingers it's Arda Turan. Bale would be a dream but not likely, this season anyway.

First time poster, Chelsea fan, but been coming on here as enjoy the banter of a like minded club, with excellent owners.

I wouldnt say im ITK but ive been friends with a england player thats at Chelsea, and Mourinho was on way his way back to Chelsea before RDM won the champions league, everything was agreed in principle, until Roman felt he had to give RDM a fair crack of the whip, hence Jose signing a new deal with Real.

On the striker issue I know this, Chelsea consider Rooney and Cavani as wanting both, BA and Torres will leave the club this summer.

Rooney is the most difficult of the two, Cavani's agent has contacted clubs he would play for with wage demands etc.

Rooney in my view will not leave United, as they cant find a big name striker to replace him, and he apparently doesn't want to leave.

Alot of people around the club feel Cavani will be a Chelsea player, but Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been mentioned if this doesn't happen.

 

[LoveCity]

Daily Mail just reported PSG have bid £50m for him. Whaaaaa? Anyone know the source of this? Surely Ibra would have to go as they wouldn't function well together.

 

[Anonymous]

Daily Mail just reported PSG have bid £50m for him. Whaaaaa? Anyone know the source of this? Surely Ibra would have to go as they wouldn't function well together.

Story has come out of Le Parisien in Paris who are saying that Cavani's agent arrived last night to meet Leonardo. Says the good relationship between PSG and Napoli due to the Lavezzi transfer will help smooth the deal and that Paris have no problem paying the buy out clause. Question is does the player want to go to Paris.

Also, PSG will sell Gameiro this summer leaving them with Ibra/Lavezzi only. I can fully see the temptation in linking Lavezzi up with Cavani again.

Cat amongst the pigeons now for City, Chelsea, and Madrid. If Paris get serious then everyone else will have to shit or get off the potty so to speak because Paris will pay the asking price.

 

[AlvaLazuardy]

Daily Mail just reported PSG have bid £50m for him. Whaaaaa? Anyone know the source of this? Surely Ibra would have to go as they wouldn't function well together.

Cavani agent fly to paris according le parisiens