Celtic Thread - 2021/22

LongsightM13 said:
Sounds remarkably like what liverpool fans are saying about us this morning
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There's a difference. You make Euro Semi finals regularly, only last year made the final, and know its only a matter of time before you win it.

MP can correct me if I'm wrong but I think Celtic have made 1 Euro Final in 50+ years. They are special for a Scottish club, as they don't come around very often, whereas Celtic or Rangers win the league EVERY year. There's been theatre productions and all sorts made about Celtic in Seville, that's with a defeat as well.

Celtic will enjoy their league title, they deserve to. Any time you beat your rivals to a title is sweet. In normal circumstance Rangers fans would be fuming. But not this season. Could be a rare occasion when both fans are happy. Wouldn't that be a good thing!
 
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GunnerGer said:
There's a difference. You make Euro Semi finals regularly, only last year made the final, and know its only a matter of time before you win it.

MP can correct me if I'm wrong but I think Celtic have made 1 Euro Final in 50+ years. They are special for a Scottish club, as they don't come around very often, whereas Celtic or Rangers win the league EVERY year. There's been theatre productions and all sorts made about Celtic in Seville, that's with a defeat as well.
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Yes one, and the theatre productions were about the journey and how we acted whilst there. On our last day, we stood outside the wee bar we had left a considerable amount of euros in, the old guy who owned it came out when we wanted to settle the bill and refused payment. Three old Spanish women walking by started talking to us and hugged us all, all I could make out was Gracias. It was magical, we went toe to toe with the team who won the CL the next year. Apart from their cheating and diving, which they didn’t need to do, they were a class team. We did lose, but unlike you in Manchester, we took them on.

We both know winning the CL is more of a fantasy than my big blue nose pal getting his hair back, for me, getting there is a win. Hopefully Ange buys more gems and we can have a go. Getting 3rd place is another win and anything more and I will probably pass out.
 
Magicpole said:
Yes one, and the theatre productions were about the journey and how we acted whilst there. On our last day, we stood outside the wee bar we had left a considerable amount of euros in, the old guy who owned it came out when we wanted to settle the bill and refused payment. Three old Spanish women walking by started talking to us and hugged us all, all I could make out was Gracias. It was magical, we went toe to toe with the team who won the CL the next year. Apart from their cheating and diving, which they didn’t need to do, they were a class team. We did lose, but unlike you in Manchester, we took them on.

We both know winning the CL is more of a fantasy than my big blue nose pal getting his hair back, for me, getting there is a win. Hopefully Ange buys more gems and we can have a go. Getting 3rd place is another win and anything more and I will probably pass out.
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Aww, that's lovely. :-) Like I said, I went to Manchester, seen not a jot of bother, & the locals were in their gardens clapping us on our walk to the ground. Sure, if you were involved or witnessed the disorder after the screens went down, your memories are different. Mine are what they are & I'll cherish mine.

For me, the optimum thing Scottish clubs can do until the revenue gap is closed, is qualify for the Champions League and get the money involved, finish 3rd & drop into the Europa League, where we can be more competitive and actually have a chance of competing & going far in the tournament. Of course when I say we, I mean us given your recent record. ;-)
 
GunnerGer said:
Aww, that's lovely. :-) Like I said, I went to Manchester, seen not a jot of bother, & the locals were in their gardens clapping us on our walk to the ground. Sure, if you were involved or witnessed the disorder after the screens went down, your memories are different. Mine are what they are & I'll cherish mine.

For me, the optimum thing Scottish clubs can do until the revenue gap is closed, is qualify for the Champions League and get the money involved, finish 3rd & drop into the Europa League, where we can be more competitive and actually have a chance of competing & going far in the tournament. Of course when I say we, I mean us given your recent record. ;-)
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Your visit to Manchester left a bad taste among many of the locals. I doubt too many of the small business owners in the city centre, whose premises were trashed, would feel like clapping you. And Celtic fans, while not as bad, won't win many popularity contests in Manchester.
 
jimharri said:
Your visit to Manchester left a bad taste among many of the locals. I doubt too many of the small business owners in the city centre, whose premises were trashed, would feel like clapping you. And Celtic fans, while not as bad, won't win many popularity contests in Manchester.
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Like I said, my experiences were before the trouble started. It's obvious that the view would change after the troubles. Not sure 200k pissed up Brits travelling to any city would be looked on favourably to be honest, especially when you anger them by turning off fan zone screens.
 
GunnerGer said:
Like I said, my experiences were before the trouble started. It's obvious that the view would change after the troubles. Not sure 200k pissed up Brits travelling to any city would be looked on favourably to be honest, especially when you anger them by turning off fan zone screens.
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So; it was the organisers' fault? Riiight. I don't envy the locals in Seville what is coming.
 
Magicpole said:
Yes one, and the theatre productions were about the journey and how we acted whilst there. On our last day, we stood outside the wee bar we had left a considerable amount of euros in, the old guy who owned it came out when we wanted to settle the bill and refused payment. Three old Spanish women walking by started talking to us and hugged us all, all I could make out was Gracias. It was magical, we went toe to toe with the team who won the CL the next year. Apart from their cheating and diving, which they didn’t need to do, they were a class team. We did lose, but unlike you in Manchester, we took them on.

We both know winning the CL is more of a fantasy than my big blue nose pal getting his hair back, for me, getting there is a win. Hopefully Ange buys more gems and we can have a go. Getting 3rd place is another win and anything more and I will probably pass out.
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I am probably in the minority when I say that it would be interesting if one of the big two Scottish clubs came into serious money and I would welcome the resumption of the Anglo-Scottish rivalry at club level.
 
mexico1970 said:
I am probably in the minority when I say that it would be interesting if one of the big two Scottish clubs came into serious money and I would welcome the resumption of the Anglo-Scottish rivalry at club level.
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No, thanks. Don't want either of them in the PL. Those two sets of fans are stuck in some sort of /17th/18th/19th/20th century timewarp. Let them keep their backwards sectarian bullshit where it belongs.
 
jimharri said:
So; it was the organisers' fault? Riiight. I don't envy the locals in Seville what is coming.
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Yeah, was convenient. And did I say it was their fault? I said it didn't help. Like I said, couple of hundred thousand Scottish / British football fans including many of the dregs of society can't be easy to handle, it's unprecedented. The last thing you want is for them to miss out on the biggest game of their lifetime due to a technical fault.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Screens weren’t turned off. One of them failed and then the lads trying to repair it were pelted with cans
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Another viewpoint.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Police boss: Council caused Rangers riot by turning off big screen

A SENIOR police figure has blamed Manchester council for the Uefa Cup final riot. Chris Burrows, chairman of the Greater Manchester Police Federation, which represents rank-and-file bobbies, said the big screen showing the match in Piccadilly Gardens was deliberately switched off.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
 
GunnerGer said:
Yeah, was convenient. And did I say it was their fault? I said it didn't help. Like I said, couple of hundred thousand Scottish / British football fans including many of the dregs of society can't be easy to handle, it's unprecedented. The last thing you want is for them to miss out on the biggest game of their lifetime due to a technical fault.
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There's a case that can be made that the venue should change depending on the teams there. As was shown last season with the CL final switch from Istanbul to Porto, it can be done smoothly, and the original venue choice can be compensated later on with getting the final another year. The stadium was smaller in capacity in 2008 then it is today and you knew Rangers were going to bring huge numbers of fans. It was obviously going to overwhelm the city. Not excusing what happened, but the lack of planning and foresight was shocking.
 
GunnerGer said:
Another viewpoint.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Police boss: Council caused Rangers riot by turning off big screen

A SENIOR police figure has blamed Manchester council for the Uefa Cup final riot. Chris Burrows, chairman of the Greater Manchester Police Federation, which represents rank-and-file bobbies, said the big screen showing the match in Piccadilly Gardens was deliberately switched off.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
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Even if that is the case, and it's debatable (snd may never be known for a fact, one way or another), does that make it okay to pelt the blokes trying to fix it? Or to go on a drunken rampage through a City they had no business being in?
 
GunnerGer said:
Aww, that's lovely. :-) Like I said, I went to Manchester, seen not a jot of bother, & the locals were in their gardens clapping us on our walk to the ground. Sure, if you were involved or witnessed the disorder after the screens went down, your memories are different. Mine are what they are & I'll cherish mine.

For me, the optimum thing Scottish clubs can do until the revenue gap is closed, is qualify for the Champions League and get the money involved, finish 3rd & drop into the Europa League, where we can be more competitive and actually have a chance of competing & going far in the tournament. Of course when I say we, I mean us given your recent record. ;-)
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My pal and bother in law were there too and didn’t notice anything. They were raging that those arseholes spoiled what was a great day. As for us in Europe, let’s wait and see what Ange can do. Writing is off as evidenced this season is dangerous game.
 
jimharri said:
Even if that is the case, and it's debatable (snd may never be known for a fact, one way or another), does that make it okay to pelt the blokes trying to fix it? Or to go on a drunken rampage through a City they had no business being in?
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Jim, I've said many a time I don't condone the trouble, it's obviously put a stain on our name. All I'm saying is that the circumstances that lead to it didnt help, & to bare in mind that when you are taking 200k fans to a City, theres lots of those not normal match going fans, in fact it attracted the dregs of our society.

However, it happened and its embarrassing to be associated with it unfortunately.
 
But why were that many Rangers fans there? They obviously didn't have tickets (apparently, the fans in the stadium behaved perfectly fine)? Could they not have watched the game back home?
 
jimharri said:
But why were that many Rangers fans there? They obviously didn't have tickets (apparently, the fans in the stadium behaved perfectly fine)? Could they not have watched the game back home?
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Gunner is right, it was too close, as one of my bluenose pals said, within Giro distance, so every utter bam and his pal could go. We took 60,000 more to Seville that we had tickets for. My brother in law had a ticket, my big mate and his boy didn’t. I would have gone without a ticket too, but then again, I am an officer and a gentleman.
 
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