Champions League 10th-11th March

[Burtonblue]

Loving Souness!
Just about called Chelsea a bunch of cheating cnuts without actually using those words.
Take a bow Sir!

 

[Blue Haze]

lol. On RTE Dunphy just called Mourinho a cancer on the game.Himself,Giles and Hamann all giving him a verbal kicking.

He poisons any league in which he works. Hope he leaves England soon

 

[pudge]

That's the problem.

The best German players on a whole are going to want to play for Bayern, the best Spanish for Barca/Madrid, the best Italian for Juventus. Even the best South Americans will generally go to Spain. Even though we have more money it's still not enough to get these players to leave their countries. The way we bridged the gap was by having a host of our own world class players that wanted to stay in England: Scholes, Lampard, Cole, Ferdinand, Terry, Campbell, Neville, Gerrard etc. Now we don't even have one.

PSG had 2 French players play for them tonight, and one was subbed off for the other.

PSG are a rare situation, because they are Paris, which is arguably the most glamorous city in the world. I have said this years ago, but PSG due to the attraction of Paris can attract the highest level players that City cannot. PSG immediately were getting the biggest players in the world like Zlatan, Thiago Silva and though he has flopped Pastore.

Mancini wants said that though he has money it's not like he can buy Xavi and Iniesta. PSG just stepped into one of the most attractive teams in the world. The other French clubs do have a number of good French youngsters though.

So PSG beating Chelsea shows how weak the Premier League is because there's no world class Englishmen playing for Chelsea yet there's no world class Frenchmen playing for PSG?

Man for man, on paper, Chelsea are better than PSG. Their win had nothing to do with a lack of world class Englishmen for Chelsea or the Premier League, they were just the better team on the night.

You can't use the argument who have after that match and then say that PSG are an exception, makes even less sense.

 

[Dhruv1]

Never thought I'd say this but well done to Carragher and especially Souness for telling the truth.

Gamesmanship, cheating.
Big games being decided by hounding the referee (not tonight LOL)

They were well beaten by 10-men PSG without Ibra for 90 mins... too funny.

Disgusting manager, disgusting players... justice was done for once.

Now they can only match our success from last year.

Definitely believe they can bottle the league... Man City are the best :)

 

[Shadz69]

lol. On RTE Dunphy just called Mourinho a cancer on the game.Himself,Giles and Hamann all giving him a verbal kicking.

He poisons any league in which he works. Hope he leaves England soon

Giles got it right tonight when he said Ferguson was a great manager for the rags but terrible for the game itself in England just like Mourinho is now at Chelsea with a win at ant cost mentality and constant bullying of the media and refs.

 

[supercrystal7]

PSG had 2 French players play for them tonight, and one was subbed off for the other.

PSG are a rare situation, because they are Paris, which is arguably the most glamorous city in the world. I have said this years ago, but PSG due to the attraction of Paris can attract the highest level players that City cannot. PSG immediately were getting the biggest players in the world like Zlatan, Thiago Silva and though he has flopped Pastore.

Mancini wants said that though he has money it's not like he can buy Xavi and Iniesta. PSG just stepped into one of the most attractive teams in the world. The other French clubs do have a number of good French youngsters though.

So PSG beating Chelsea shows how weak the Premier League is because there's no world class Englishmen playing for Chelsea yet there's no world class Frenchmen playing for PSG?

Man for man, on paper, Chelsea are better than PSG. Their win had nothing to do with a lack of world class Englishmen for Chelsea or the Premier League, they were just the better team on the night.

You can't use the argument who have after that match and then say that PSG are an exception, makes even less sense.

No the low level of the Premiership has been obvious for some time. I have seen Palace teams almost as good as this struggle to make the play offs at the low level and at the top level English clubs have done very poorly in Europe. This is not a knee jerk reaction, but what has been obvious for some time. Most of the best players in the world also no longer play in England and it has been for some time.

I explained how PSG's location and glamour allowed them to get the biggest names in football. English clubs have never had the appeal or the money usually to get the biggest names in the game. So to bridge that gap we need to produce world class players of our own like the Bundesliga and La Liga teams do. Even when we have the money players like Isco, Godin, Hummels, Reus, Pogba, Marquinhos, Higuain etc have been rejecting our top clubs.

I have also posted that I don't think Chelsea are better man for man. It's close and things have changed since I watched a lot of PSG last season. David Luiz, Thiago Silva, Veratti, Motta, Cavani and Zlatan are all top class experienced payers with the exception of Veratti.

 

[MihaiCity]

a triumph for the real football tonight...well done PSG well done they play very very well and that without ibrahimovic for 90 mins.....MP should show the game to our players before barca game maybe that will make them go for a fight

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

Chelsea lost because of there mentality,playing 90 mins if u include extra time and Still losing is a joke
And when chelsea took the lead in normal time ,mourinio brought on 5 th defender ,joke , pellet can be naive with tactics at times but I would take his attacking approach every day of the week over mourinio bus company

 

[pudge]

PSG are a rare situation, because they are Paris, which is arguably the most glamorous city in the world. I have said this years ago, but PSG due to the attraction of Paris can attract the highest level players that City cannot. PSG immediately were getting the biggest players in the world like Zlatan, Thiago Silva and though he has flopped Pastore.

Mancini wants said that though he has money it's not like he can buy Xavi and Iniesta. PSG just stepped into one of the most attractive teams in the world. The other French clubs do have a number of good French youngsters though.

So PSG beating Chelsea shows how weak the Premier League is because there's no world class Englishmen playing for Chelsea yet there's no world class Frenchmen playing for PSG?

Man for man, on paper, Chelsea are better than PSG. Their win had nothing to do with a lack of world class Englishmen for Chelsea or the Premier League, they were just the better team on the night.

You can't use the argument who have after that match and then say that PSG are an exception, makes even less sense.

No the low level of the Premiership has been obvious for some time. I have seen Palace teams almost as good as this struggle to make the play offs at the low level and at the top level English clubs have done very poorly in Europe. This is not a knee jerk reaction, but what has been obvious for some time. Most of the best players in the world also no longer play in England and it has been for some time.

I explained how PSG's location and glamour allowed them to get the biggest names in football. English clubs have never had the appeal or the money usually to get the biggest names in the game. So to bridge that gap we need to produce world class players of our own like the Bundesliga and La Liga teams do.

I have also posted that I don't think Chelsea are better man for man. It's close and things have changed since I watched a lot of PSG last season. David Luiz, Thiago Silva, Veratti, Motta, Cavani and Zlatan are all top class experienced payers with the exception of Veratti.

I don't agree with your assessment of PSG.

Take away Zlatan and I struggle to see any world class players with the possible exception of Cavani although I've never been wholly convinced. Fabregas, Hazard, Matic over the likes Matuidi, Motta and Pastore.

Thiago Silva is having a Kompany-esque season, well below par on the whole.

Courtois over Sirigu, Marquinhos isn't a right back by trade and Ivanovic is annoyingly one of the best RBs out there atm. Azpilicueta over Maxwell.

Costa and Cavani are 7/10 strikers imo.

I'd also say that man for man we're better than PSG. A lack of English players doesn't hurt the Premier League in these competitions as a lack of French players don't hinder PSG or a lack of Portuguese players don't hinder Porto.

 

[supercrystal7]

So PSG beating Chelsea shows how weak the Premier League is because there's no world class Englishmen playing for Chelsea yet there's no world class Frenchmen playing for PSG?

Man for man, on paper, Chelsea are better than PSG. Their win had nothing to do with a lack of world class Englishmen for Chelsea or the Premier League, they were just the better team on the night.

You can't use the argument who have after that match and then say that PSG are an exception, makes even less sense.

No the low level of the Premiership has been obvious for some time. I have seen Palace teams almost as good as this struggle to make the play offs at the low level and at the top level English clubs have done very poorly in Europe. This is not a knee jerk reaction, but what has been obvious for some time. Most of the best players in the world also no longer play in England and it has been for some time.

I explained how PSG's location and glamour allowed them to get the biggest names in football. English clubs have never had the appeal or the money usually to get the biggest names in the game. So to bridge that gap we need to produce world class players of our own like the Bundesliga and La Liga teams do.

I have also posted that I don't think Chelsea are better man for man. It's close and things have changed since I watched a lot of PSG last season. David Luiz, Thiago Silva, Veratti, Motta, Cavani and Zlatan are all top class experienced payers with the exception of Veratti.

I don't agree with your assessment of PSG.

Take away Zlatan and I struggle to see any world class players with the possible exception of Cavani although I've never been wholly convinced. Fabregas, Hazard, Matic over the likes Matuidi, Motta and Pastore.

Thiago Silva is having a Kompany-esque season, well below par on the whole.

Courtois over Sirigu, Marquinhos isn't a right back by trade and Ivanovic is annoyingly one of the best RBs out there atm. Azpilicueta over Maxwell.

Costa and Cavani are 7/10 strikers imo.

I'd also say that man for man we're better than PSG. A lack of English players doesn't hurt the Premier League in these competitions as a lack of French players don't hinder PSG or a lack of Portuguese players don't hinder Porto.

Thiago Silva has been world class and can still be. There is a reason Motta has been the defensive midfielder for 2 different CL winning teams. Why exactly would you take Matic over him? David Luiz when he focuses in a big game is better than either Terry of Cahill. Maxwell not great, but again very experienced. I thought PSG would win and I rate Mourinho very highly.

Thiago Silva may not be having the best season, but at his best he is at least a level above any defender in England. I agree with Courtois, but would take Matuidi over Ramires.

PSG edge it in terms of quality of the team and they are more experienced too.

Though arguing over the better players does not address my initial point about PSG attracting the biggest names in the game. Pastore and Cavani were both had much bigger names than quality. You could throw in Lucas Moura there too. They bought the next big big defender in Marquinhos and the Van der Veil. A lot of times these players have failed to justify the hype, but it shows that PSG can attract players the rest in England cannot.