Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

chedlee said:
This is so right and wrong. It is a psychological test of manager, player, team and club. Pep has been there and won it (and taken us to 3 of the last 4 league titles) and he constantly talks about how the club need to understand what they are going for and to have the belief they can do it. Last night was another lesson and we are not alone, there was some stat on first time finalist losing the last 7 times or something. Pep picked a team well capable of winning that game but the team failed him and us, if they can’t win because so and so isn’t playing then that isn’t a great look.
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Clarkie?
 
cleavers said:
There was nothing "lucky" about their goal, they'd had 3 similar chances before it. It was rank bad defending, started with Walker, involved both CB's (or more to the point didn't involve either), and ended with Zinchenko (not blaming him, he was trying to cover, but had no chance), and if Havertz had not scored, we'd have been down a man, with a sub goalkeeper to boot.

That's not bad luck, it's bad play, simple as that, and it stemmed from not having a tackler (fouler) in midfield for me.
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Spot on
 
The weak point of Pep's football philosophy is teams like Chelsea in cup competitions. He is a very good manager and aware of this. Unfortunately he over-compansated and instead of strengthening the defence he came up with this idea.

He overlooked the psychology of the players which partly explains their weirdness. I am sure the players, like all of us, were surprised when they saw the team sheet.

It is a choice, it cannot go two ways. Play Pep's style and PL is fine but cups are doubtful or the other way around.

This season's genious "false 9" tactic brought the PL. I think in the new season, some adjustment is needed for a more balanced style of play in big games and cup competitions.
 
BolinCell said:
Mahrez is Mahrez, forever cutting back inside and never getting to the by line for our trademark cutback goal. Sterling has had a stinker of a season, Walker causes more trouble to defenders than Mahrez. KDB moved forward with menace only to have to turn around and pass the ball back because their was little ahead of him. Foden the same little space to operate in and no forwards making runs because they were sat on the bench. I can't fathom how people don't understand that playing without recognised forwards (Aguero or Jesus) is a massive hindrance and just because it payed off when we had injuries to our forwards doesn't make it right. Several occasions during that match Chelsea passed to their own goalie on his goal line and he waited for City challenge then passed to a defender, the ball was then lumped over the top and they were on a break. That closing down would of been natural to a forward and the midfield would not of been dragged into the box.
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My preferred option would have been Jesus on the left. Aguero (or Torres) in the centre, Mahrez on the right.
Either Fern or Rodri in place of Bernardo.
We could then have either played through the middle with Foden or via the wings with Jesus/Mahrez..
Foden and Torres seem to have a good understanding and work well together.
 
Another thing was playing De Bruyne in the middle of the top 3 and Foden behind. Should have been the other way round but with Sterling in the middle and Foden in Sterling's position.
 
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