Channel deaths | Four confirmed dead after migrant boat tragically capsizes (p 41)

[SWP's back]

For those that wish to seek asylum in France, then yes.

Exactly.

 

[BobKowalski]

Exactly.

And for those that wish to seek asylum in the UK?

 

[SWP's back]

And for those that wish to seek asylum in the UK?

Poor fuckers. I’d let them have a read of BM politics forum and the majority would tell them what a poorly run shit hole the U.K. is post Brexit and ten minutes later they’d be learning French.

Then of course there are the UK’s own rules on seeking asylum which states that their case may not be considered if they’ve travelled through a safe 3rd country (such as France):

 

[BobKowalski]

Poor fuckers. I’d let them have a read of BM politics forum and the majority would tell them what a poorly run shit hole the U.K. is post Brexit and ten minutes later they’d be learning French.

Then of course there are the UK’s own rules on seeking asylum which states that their case may not be considered if they’ve travelled through a safe 3rd country (such as France):

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‘Might’ doing a lot of lifting there. Travelling through an EU country is not a legal bar to seeking asylum here no matter how many ‘mights’ we use. They generally wish to come here as they have ‘a connection’ with the UK rather than France.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Poor fuckers. I’d let them have a read of BM politics forum and the majority would tell them what a poorly run shit hole the U.K. is post Brexit and ten minutes later they’d be learning French.

Then of course there are the UK’s own rules on seeking asylum which states that their case may not be considered if they’ve travelled through a safe 3rd country (such as France):

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How does someone claim asylum in the U.K.?

Using your criteria, it is impossible for anyone to do so.

 

[ganganvince]

How does someone claim asylum in the U.K.?

Using your criteria, it is impossible for anyone to do so.

That's the issue as it stands there is no requirement for a refugee to apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach although once they have reached a safe country and carry on travelling they cease to be refugees and become migrants (economic or otherwise) which is the UK govs argument.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That's the issue as it stands there is no requirement for a refugee to apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach although once they have reached a safe country and carry on travelling they cease to be refugees and become migrants (economic or otherwise) which is the UK govs argument.

Yet 70% of those applying for asylum have it granted when they get here either first time or on appeal, so this “might not have their claim processed if they have come from a safe country” policy doesn’t really apply/work.

The humane thing to do would be to process their application before them having to put their lives at further risk in crossing the channel.

 

[ganganvince]

Yet 70% of those applying for asylum have it granted when they get here either first time or on appeal, so this “might not have their claim processed if they have come from a safe country” policy doesn’t really apply/work.

The humane thing to do would be to process their application before them having to put their lives at further risk in crossing the channel.

That's the issue which creates the problem of crossings if we could create a situation were all were deported when entering illegally but at the same time create a safe legal process we could offer help to those genuinely in need rather than those able to make the journey.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That's the issue which creates the problem of crossings if we could create a situation were all were deported when entering illegally but at the same time create a safe legal process we could offer help to those genuinely in need rather than those able to make the journey.

Which is all I’ve been suggesting.

 

[ganganvince]

Which is all I’ve been suggesting.

Yes but on here that makes you an evil liar. :)