Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

mexico1970 said:
But nobody I knew or heard of made excuses for those murders, there isn't an excuse for this murder unless you're an utter ****.
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What can I say?

At the time of his death, or in and around, Dr Martin Luther King Jr. was White America's most hated man (75% unfavourable) with many thinking he would bring race riots to America.

You tell me, then...
 
Haaland94 said:
I have not seen anything to substantiate any of this. His personal beliefs are not harming anyone. I have never seen him disrespectful in his countless videos. I have seen nothing but a lot of respect in his debates towards anyone, including people he completely dosagreed with.

I have seen people here claiming he doesn't believe in empathy, when he seems to have plenty of that, especially for American people. They use some cherrypicked quote when he explains why he doesn't believe in empathy under particular circumstances. He picks and chooses when to emphasise though, like most on here. If he is so bad, so are people on here.
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You’ve clearly made that up about his position on empathy, to be fair. Not sure why given he’s explicit about it and it’s widely available.
 
Postman Pep said:
You are clearly a fan and I don't really want to intrude on your grieving process but if you insist throwing around blanlet accusations, while complaining about a "lack of context" .... here's a few for you to explain to the class.View attachment 169195
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But apart from that, "harmless lad"

People watch TV like Adolescence and are shocked what young men are turning into.

It's cunts like Charlie Kirk that are destroying the brains of these kids. With their YouTube, Tiktok and Instagram shorts. Same goes for that sex trafficking, rapist **** Tate and his wanker of a brother. If they rocked up dead tomorrow I wouldn't lose any sleep. Just as I didn't last night.

I have people who are very close to me who are gay and their lives are made miserable on a weekly basis by young teenage lads whether it be in public or on social media. 2016 was a huge fucking turning point on social media regarding left and right politics. Grifters took advantage and started spewing hateful bile at every minority group possible for views and cash. Impressionable teens then take this as the right way to view things and go forth in the "real world" and turn their words into actions. Like somebody else already put it. Profiteering off political division.
 
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Bigga said:
What can I say?

At the time of his death, or in and around, Dr Martin Luther King Jr. was White America's most hated man (75% unfavourable) with many thinking he would bring race riots to America.

You tell me, then...
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Shows nothing has changed, my point stands if you can think of any excuse to kill someone for their political views you're a ****.

That isn't aimed at you but the warped fucks who couldn't stir a coffee if their lives depended on it. Wasn't it Malcolm X who said we shouldn't listen to liberals ?
 
johnny crossan said:
It can be but not necessarily, you need to exercise your critical faculties.
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As always you seem to have read something and completely and utterly misconstrued it. It's a talent. Google the comments and then find the source then make your own mind up, rather than lazily ask for it here.
 
Blue and true said:
Quoting out of context? Explain to me how his suggesting deaths by gunshot are needed to preserve the second amendment is anything other than perverse? Let's take it further, and bear in mind this guy broadcast his "opinions" for everyone to hear, imagine you're a parent of one of the victims of Sandy Hook or Columbine, and you hear someone trivialise these tragedies, how would you feel? That's before we get into his primitive views on race.

And you're going to gaslight people into believing they're taking things out of context.
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He supported guns, of course he is going to defend them, saying the postives (presumably self-defense) outweigh the negatives. I don't believe in guns, so I disagree, but I don't think it means he supports the deaths. It's like saying people who have an issue with the police want more murders. Context matters. It's okay to disagree with someone, there is no need to attack them personally.

Finally, I don't know what primitive views on race you are referring to, but I have seen him interacting with people of all races/religions and never seen him personally attacking anyone physically or verbally, contrary to some who attacked him. He might have attacked an ideology, that's not unheard of, we all do it, I see it a lot in this thread. I believe he has mentioned crime vs race statistics, which doesn't make him a racist. Him not liking aspects of certain religions doesn't make him a bad person. Most people have views on religion, a lot of it negative, on all sorts of religions.

He had his biases, we all have some.
 
Haaland94 said:
People here keep on "quoting" him out of context , but a tiny bit of research, actually listening to what HE said, not out of context bollocks, would show anyone that whether you agreed with him or not (and I didn't on many matters), he was a decent human being trying his best to fight for what he believed in (rightfully or not). People here dehumanise him to "justify" his murder, but that's just despicable. I wouldn't wish death to anyone, let alone some lad who never harmed anybody. He had some bad takes(some good ones too btw.), and? He deserved to die for it?! I see we have a lot of gun violence fans on here.
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Fully agree. It seems we have a lot of people on here supposedly against gun violence, until it’s someone they don’t like or doesn’t share the same opinion.

He didn’t deserve to die like that at all. All gun violence is bad.
 
1961_vintage said:
What does that even mean "prove me wrong"? You have your opinion - and whilst I don't share it, you are perfectly entitled to it.

In my view Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion. I would say exactly the same if Greta was murdered for having an opinion and/or trying to do good for the people of Palestine, or indeed anyone else that you care to mention.
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It is an attempt to mock the man that was assassinated.

His motto was "you need to talk to the people who you disagree with otherwise se'd start viewing those we disagree with as evil and our enemies."

Hence, as an 18 year old he started an organization called "turning point USA." To argue his beliefs against anyone who's willing to argue theirs.

Hence he'd make a proposition i.e " I believe abortion is wrong... Prove me wrong"

A lot of the "prove me wrong" posts are meant as mockery.

Anyway, that's that.
 
The blue phantom said:
You are absolutely fuckin deluded and seem to be buried balls deep in the cult.

'He was a decent Human being"

Just wow.
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I am deluded buried in a cult because I don't think he deserved to die. Okay, I am happy being in the let's not kill people cult. I hope I don't get killed for it...
 
mexico1970 said:
Shows nothing has changed, my point stands if you can think of any excuse to kill someone for their political views you're a ****.

That isn't aimed at you but the warped fucks who couldn't stir a coffee if their lives depended on it. Wasn't it Malcolm X who said we shouldn't listen to liberals ?
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Well, that will depend on which particular 'liberal' quote you remember.

He's said a few...
 
When The Levee Breaks said:
Not a gambling man, but I'd bet a month's salary...nay a years salary thar the same people who are saying Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to be killed for having an opinion, would be cracking out the jelly and ice cream if Greta Thunberg got blown up by the Israelis.
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What a fucking weird comment.

Maybe just maybe it shouldn't matter what political view they have. I assumed it was obvious that people shouldn't be murdered because they have a differing opinion.

Anyone who celebrates any murder because they didn't like what that person said is a ****.
 
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