Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[Kippax Street 1880]

1 thing we can universally agree on was that he did fuck up but got insanely lucky the bullet hit a critical area.

But a professional trained sniper he's not in his wildest dreams.. they would aim somewhere else entirely!

(not going to say it but if you know.. you know)

Remember Larry Flynt??

That was an attempted assassination too!

Did it get confirmed as a ricochet yeah?

I've not come across Larry Flynt yet I'll have a little read. I try to trust my gut instinct on things like this (I have no trust in what Government and media say) and my gut tells me it stinks! Jack Ruby and Sirhan Sirhan are both extremely interesting if you dive into it.

Maybe we need a new thread about Indigo Children and mind controlled assassins so we can get really crazy haha!

 

[BlueHammer85]

Thought I would pop on to YouTube during my break from painting the study - I have a lot of coffee breaks - and the political ‘temperature’ of the comments seems to have dialled down a fair bit.

Even Trumpkins seemed to be speaking more in sorrow than anger…

Give Elon musk platform a go... it's all about waging war on the left/woke etc

 

[mosssideblue]

Did it get confirmed as a ricochet yeah?

I've not come across Larry Flynt yet I'll have a little read. I try to trust my gut instinct on things like this (I have no trust in what Government and media say) and my gut tells me it stinks! Jack Ruby and Sirhan Sirhan are both extremely interesting if you dive into it.

Maybe we need a new thread about Indigo Children and mind controlled assassins so we can get really crazy haha!

Ricochet off what?

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Did it get confirmed as a ricochet yeah?

I've not come across Larry Flynt yet I'll have a little read. I try to trust my gut instinct on things like this (I have no trust in what Government and media say) and my gut tells me it stinks! Jack Ruby and Sirhan Sirhan are both extremely interesting if you dive into it.

Maybe we need a new thread about Indigo Children and mind controlled assassins so we can get really crazy haha!

Well you don't really need to research much about Larry Flynt but he was a porn publisher and free speech advocate who somehow pissed off white supremacists who didn't want magazines showing interracial sex.

An avowed white supremacist named Joseph Paul Franklin tried to kill him and his lawyer in Georgia in 1978 but they survived!

So 200 yards or so, that guy missed but in this case the bullet hit the jugular vein. Not sure it was a ricochet but it could have easily hit his ear or something.

I don't believe the government either.. especially this government with what they say. Their constant barrage of lies make Tin Foil hatters seem like reasonable!

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Ricochet off what?

I've seen reports he was wearing a bulletproof vest and it deflected upwards from that, personally I thought it was a direct hit from the video but I'm not a ballistics expert.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

22yr old in custody. Family member helped turn him in

I suppose if he's turned himself in, admits it and looks a bit sorry he might avoid death row.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Perfectly said. Besides the Civil War angle, it’s also possible this becomes a teaching moment, as the rather smarmy euphemism goes.

I hope so. Controlling the dodgy voices (from all sides) on the internet might be a start too

 

[mosssideblue]

I've seen reports he was wearing a bulletproof vest and it deflected upwards from that, personally I thought it was a direct hit from the video but I'm not a ballistics expert.

Not heard that. I thought modern day bp vests absorb the energy not redirect it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I know it's wikipedia, but the causes for death penalty in Utah don't seem to cover this.
I think it would be a stretch to call Kirk a public official, and that basically leaves hired killer.

Capital punishment in Utah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

But all Trump, Fox and the other right wing commentators have told us for the last 24 hours is how violent the left are

I don’t expect those types to backpedal, but you’d think some of the posters in here who may have gotten it wrong would have the decency to admit that perhaps they were hasty in their conclusions, even despite all the warnings that they might be so.

But they don’t seem to very often. Mostly they just run away and hide until they find some other opportunity to be wrong.

After moaning about what an “echo chamber” this is of course.

As it ever was.

 

[Scottyboi]

Does the dad get $100k bounty for bringing him in btw?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Not heard that. I thought modern day bp vests absorb the energy not redirect it.

Wasn't he wearing a T-shirt? That would have to be an incredibly thin vest to not show up.

I doubt he'd have wanted to be seen to be wearing a vest.

 

[Tiattos_Waterbottle]

I'm with some of the blokes on this thread, the far left are at it again!

 

[mosssideblue]

Wasn't he wearing a T-shirt? That would have to be an incredibly thin vest to not show up.

I doubt he'd have wanted to be seen to be wearing a vest.

Agreed

 

[Bigga]

I can't even say I would agree with that either, maybe I would go back in time and KNOWING the threat I would implement or try to implement obstacles to prevent him getting to power.

Offer the little bastard an art scholarship in Prague or something.

Even your genuine honest question brings to mind that question "Who is evil?" we always say Hitler and he was but nobody seems to put Stalin and his tubby custard moustache in the same bracket.

Assassinating someone you don't agree with politically is and should be abhorrent IMHO full stop, this murder will give politicians on both sides of the aisle free reign to implement stuff they could never have gotten away with before.

Well, well.

Here you're advocating for 'intervention' and yet when I say the same should have been the case for Decarlos Brown Jr. that could have and should have prevented the unnecessary death of Iryna Zarutska, you claim jail.

You should think about your differing opinion and reasons why.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I hope so. Controlling the dodgy voices (from all sides) on the internet might be a start too

Well, good luck with that :(

 

[Bigga]

I am all for mental health intervention, but not excuses.

Was Fred West mentally ill? Was Rose West? What about Brady or Hindley or the Yorkshire Ripper?You could argue that most violent murdering bastards have a mental condition no?

There's a line you don't cross and this is very much that line.

Those people you mention weren't recorded schizophrenics, so I don't understand why you're conflating the issues here.

Maybe, at least, some of those people may have been diagnosed with today's limited resources.

You'll never know.

 

[mexico1970]

Well, well.

Here you're advocating for 'intervention' and yet when I say the same should have been the case for Decarlos Brown Jr. that could have and should have prevented the unnecessary death of Iryna Zarutska, you claim jail.

You should think about your differing opinion and reasons why.

The only way of preventing the career criminal murdering anyone else i a good stint in the clink where he can reflect a watch his back.

I did state quite clearly that I am not a liberal, it's too late for intervention for this beast.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I suppose if he's turned himself in, admits it and looks a bit sorry he might avoid death row.

He won't avoid Big Tex though.....

 

[Bigga]

I worked for 3 months for a subsidiary of Zurich in 2002 in New York, but lived in New Paltz.
I don't think there is a typical American. But aside from regular trips to see and stay with friends in Long Island and Red Bank NJ I'm not exposed to daily life.
My friends are more concerned with tax and paying for their children's education. They okay whoever is in charge.
I think China and India's behaviour has way more of an impact on the world at the moment.
The USA is run by a conglomerate of Corporations, but they are global in nature and will utilise the tax and legal code of which ever suites their needs.
The Corporation the documentary is an interesting watch

The Corporation (2003 film) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I think we are at different ends of the spectrum.

I don't think China and India not destabilising other countries and seeking regime change and helping a certain country commit genocide for their advantage is as overtly obvious as what the US does.

But that's just me...