Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

[ninjamonkey]

It’s not going to end well for those poor kids I’ll hazard.

Sadly, I suspect they'll be moulded into becoming an imitation of their dad and that is probably their best case scenario.

 

[MCFC1993]

I didn't know who he was but it's appalling that anyone can be murdered because of their beliefs.

Having read about him, it reinforces my view that people who claim to be 'Christian' are not always that christian.

They are 'Christian' only so they can root their unhinged opinions to something of 'substance', this is so any criticism can be met with 'the bible says...' and they have a tribe to back them unquestionably.

If we all rooted our opinions to books 2000+ years old, this planet would be even more fucked.

 

[SWP's back]

Exactly, the radical left, rather than some socially dysfunctional weirdo who spent most of his hours alone in his room, wanking and fantasising about killing people.

He’ll have been talking for over 24 hours now. No one can tell me that IF he was a lefty, it wouldn’t have been leaked all over the news by now.

My guess is they now know he’s an alt right nutter and we’ll likely never hear his reasoning as he will “commit suicide” before this ever gets to court.

 

[SWP's back]

He'd already been grooming at Oxford & Cambridge union.

Well he tried but our scholars tore him a new arsehole.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

He’ll have been talking for over 24 hours now. No one can tell me that IF he was a lefty, it wouldn’t have been leaked all over the news by now.

My guess is they now know he’s an alt right nutter and we’ll likely never hear his reasoning as he will “do an Epstein” before this ever gets to court.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

My guess is they now know he’s an alt right nutter and we’ll likely never hear his reasoning as he will “commit suicide” before this ever gets to court.

The CCTV is being switched off as we speak.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sadly, I suspect they'll be moulded into becoming an imitation of their dad and that is probably their best case scenario.

Difficult to see how not.

 

[citymad]

I didn't know who he was but it's appalling that anyone can be murdered because of their beliefs.

Having read about him, it reinforces my view that people who claim to be 'Christian' are not always that christian.

The irony is here PB that Trump doesn't have a religious bone in his body but saw Kirk as a very smart man and funded him probably to help recruit young christians to the republican party. It's incredible that thousands of christians still worship this man.Talk about a messed up country.

 

[fulabeer]

This assassination isn't the first and will definitely not be the last.
The US has a divisive President in charge, who will probably be thinking that it at least keeps Epstein off the news for a while.
I can only imagine what would be happening right now if the shooter was a Democrat, and not from a Republican background. (Not that even matters to the nutters) The place is a powder keg and is just waiting to go off.
The US is morally broke. The "American Dream"?....."The American Scream"!
How can a country have Obama, and the chance of a better healthcare system for all, and many other good and positive things. Go and then vote in Trump...twice?

 

[west didsblue]

The irony is here PB that Trump doesn't have a religious bone in his body but saw Kirk as a very smart man and funded him probably to help recruit young christians to the republican party. It's incredible that thousands of christians still worship this man.Talk about a messed up country.

Kirk only became a Christian 5 years ago when he realised he could tap into the support of the Evangelicals. He was non-religious before that.

Somehow I doubt he suddenly found God or Jesus.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The free speech at all costs brigade are currently doing a huge volte face over this, without any hint of irony, whatsoever.
Saying negative things about Mr Kirk will likely see you lose your job. Posting negative things, the same.


The Trump administration has also taken a hard stance against negative comments about Kirk after his killing on Wednesday.

American citizens aren't the only ones potentially facing consequences for their comments, with US Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau threating action against anyone praising Kirk's death.

"I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country," Landau wrote on X Thursday.

"I have been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing, or making light of the event, and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action."

Since Trump's return to the White House earlier this year, the State Department has adopted more stringent checks on the social media accounts of visa applicants.

Foreigners applying for study, vocational and non-academic work as well as exchange visitor visas "will be instructed to adjust the privacy settings on all of their social media profiles to 'public'," it announced in June.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The free speech at all costs brigade are currently doing a huge volte face over this, without any hint of irony, whatsoever.
Saying negative things about Mr Kirk will likely see you lose your job. Posting negative things, the same.


The Trump administration has also taken a hard stance against negative comments about Kirk after his killing on Wednesday.

American citizens aren't the only ones potentially facing consequences for their comments, with US Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau threating action against anyone praising Kirk's death.

"I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country," Landau wrote on X Thursday.

"I have been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing, or making light of the event, and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action."

Since Trump's return to the White House earlier this year, the State Department has adopted more stringent checks on the social media accounts of visa applicants.

Foreigners applying for study, vocational and non-academic work as well as exchange visitor visas "will be instructed to adjust the privacy settings on all of their social media profiles to 'public'," it announced in June.

I reckon I’ve spent (adjusted for inflation) about £60,000 (give or take) in ten trips to the States from 1994 to 2019, and for reasons of the above, unless something radically changes, I doubt I’ll ever go back.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

I reckon I’ve spent (adjusted for inflation) about £60,000 (give or take) in ten trips to the States from 1994 to 2019, and for reasons of the above, unless something radically changes, I doubt I’ll ever go back.

Im never going back. It's a fucked up place.

 

[VOOMER]

Whichever one you seem to be moving along.

You have eyes and yet blame China and India for world problems over the US.

You are at odds with my centring.

So when are you releasing your cure for cancer?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Im never going back. It's a fucked up place.

I’d say you visited the place in the US that I was least enamoured by, save for Memphis tbf, but I completely agree with the last part of your post.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I reckon I’ve spent (adjusted for inflation) about £60,000 (give or take) in ten trips to the States from 1994 to 2019, and for reasons of the above, unless something radically changes, I doubt I’ll ever go back.

I usually have to go with work but I’ve refused the last 2 business trips. It’s a place that has turned from friendly to hostile in a short space of time.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

I’m pretty sure all those you list are at least going to maim if not kill.

Deflection. The claim was: "The purpose of a gun is to kill. It serves no other purpose" and all my examples proved otherwise.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Deflection. The claim was: "The purpose of a gun is to kill. It serves no other purpose" and all my examples proved otherwise.

The threat of harm — with harm its sole purpose by design — serves all a firearm’s other purposes, save perhaps decorative or historical value. Not sure why you are still arguing this point.

Edit — actually, noise-making (like a starter’s gun) or signal creation (flare gun) too. But there are non-weapon substitute products for those tasks and I’m not sure those types of “guns” count as weapons obviously.

 

[mosssideblue]

His widow isn’t going to calm things down

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

His widow isn’t going to calm things down

I’d assume she’s going to take his place.