Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

ninjamonkey said:
Has there been any explanation as to how this kid is seemingly a professional level marksman? Either the guy got exceptionally lucky or he's had extensive training to land a shot like that so cleanly.
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He was bought and raised with guns - heard interview other day by a gun pro that the shot from that range isn’t that difficult
 
west didsblue said:
Property sounds pretty cheap where you are. A big detached house in a highly desirable area here would be well over £700k ($1m)
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It’s not “big” at 2,800 sq ft, plus 1,200 sq ft basement, and $800,000+/- but I think American suburban real estate is a steal compared to the homes my sibs live in, in and around Manchester.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
He was bought and raised with guns - heard interview other day by a gun pro that the shot from that range isn’t that difficult
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You can put a frame on a Glock handgun and hit a human from 200 yards. Long guns are not nearly as hard to fire accurately as some people might think, especially with practice and an optical sight.
 
DrBlueBob said:
Fair do's. My father had a share in a plane but I always thought boats were super expensive.
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Planes are more expensive than houses to maintain, esp the more you enjoy flying them!

My boat is nothing to write home about and was the price of a bang average new car. Planes START at the price of a Range Rover and go up from there. I have a friend looking to buy a $1.2M plane right now. I think she’s crazy, but it’s her money!
 
DrBlueBob said:
Fair do's. My father had a share in a plane but I always thought boats were super expensive.
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I believe the general principle is that boats cost 10% of the list price for maintenance every year. That’s why they’re expensive.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
Hard to see how the evidence hasn't damned the guy already and what jury is going to find him not guilty?

They have somebody confessing that he told them he did it including a family member. Then there are hundreds of people's camera footage, he's also on camera arriving at and leaving the scene plus the DNA evidence.

Pretty open and shut I'd imagine and he might still plead guilty to avoid the death penalty.
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There are actually a thousand things that contradict the official story so it’s not remotely open and shut.
 
Scottyboi said:
Gets weirder by the minute this case. Them discord messages the FBI have released do not read like a 22 year old who was writing memes on his bullets. Yet ties up every loose end with each sentence. Just really odd.
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Discord has said they don’t exist. Theres something seriously fucking weird going on here. I don’t believe for a second he lives to get on the witness stand in his own defence.
 
Scottyboi said:
Gets weirder by the minute this case. Them discord messages the FBI have released do not read like a 22 year old who was writing memes on his bullets. Yet ties up every loose end with each sentence. Just really odd.
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Yes they are very odd, he is some internet memer yet talks like a chatgpt robot with his friend using archaic words you wouldnt expect from a 22 year old in private messages? I guess he was from a Mormon household and could be in shock which could possibly explain it, but it doesnt seem very believable to me, especially considering the clown show that is running both the FBI and the DOJ, wouldnt trust anything they say.

Also if you think it couldnt get worse, Patel was wearing a Liverpool tie during his senate questioning the other day:

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Uptop said:
Yes they are very odd, he is some internet memer yet talks like a chatgpt robot with his friend using archaic words you wouldnt expect from a 22 year old in private messages? I guess he was from a Mormon household and could be in shock which could possibly explain it, but it doesnt seem very believable to me, especially considering the clown show that is running both the FBI and the DOJ, wouldnt trust anything they say.

Also if you think it couldnt get worse, Patel was wearing a Liverpool tie during his senate questioning the other day:

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"Hello my fellow discord members,

I have some terribly shocking news for you all."

Seems ridiculous to me.
 
It seems that we are now at the point where AI and CGI possibilities, "fake news", conspiracy theories combined with social media, left versus right and wholesale agendas right across the board are insane.
 
SWP's back said:
Discord has said they don’t exist. Theres something seriously fucking weird going on here. I don’t believe for a second he lives to get on the witness stand in his own defence.
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Normally that last sentence is something I'd consider hyperbole but we're so far beyond 'normal' over there now that I'm inclined to agree with you.
 
mackenzie said:
It seems that we are now at the point where AI and CGI possibilities, "fake news", conspiracy theories combined with social media, left versus right and wholesale agendas right across the board are insane.
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Yes, this is where high-quality, independent and unbiased news sources could play a truly positive role like they used to.

I wonder who we should blame for killing them.

To be fair, the list of those I trust hasn’t changed much if at all from 30 years ago, because the job is still the job even with the advent of social media.
 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
Yes, this is where high-quality, independent and unbiased news sources could play a truly positive role like they used to.

I wonder who we should blame for killing them.

To be fair, the list of those I trust hasn’t changed much if at all from 30 years ago, because the job is still the job even with the advent of social media.
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To be fair I doubt many are completely immune from it, whatever their political leanings or lack of.
 
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