Cheating Refs

In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents
 
Olivavu said:
City have been on the good end of poor decisions.

It happens in football.

At the Etihad, Sterling wasn't offside and Lescott was pulling Suarez's shirt in the box.

And if you think officials favour Liverpool, what about the Carroll goal last week?
yes ...and made sure they got all 3 points with a penalty decision which was a perfectly good save from the keeper
 
Did Sky take the MotD line that Suarez was clipped therefore it wasn't a dive? MotD showed something that they claimed proved there was contact - which even if marginal would be enough not to call it as a dive, but not give a FK. But several posters reckoned Clattenberk gave us a FK - his didn't, did he?

Dzecko, after trying to stay on his feet, then tripped over Sakho's head - intentionally kicked, then accidentally tripped, so two chances to call the penalty!

Another query - did the ball go out of play on that attack where it was pulled back from the goal line and we had the ball in the net?
 
Olivavu said:
City have been on the good end of poor decisions.

It happens in football.

At the Etihad, Sterling wasn't offside and Lescott was pulling Suarez's shirt in the box.

And if you think officials favour Liverpool, what about the Carroll goal last week?
You forgot to mention Nosferatu grabbing armfuls of shirt at every corner at the Etihad. I'd say that bloke will shit himself if video technology is ever brought in for incidents in the penalty area; his transfer value would go through the floor overnight. If I was a red dipper (god forbid), I'd be shitting myself at every corner we'd concede. He's a penalty waiting to be awarded.
 
Vic said:
Another query - did the ball go out of play on that attack where it was pulled back from the goal line and we had the ball in the net?
Yeah it did matey...
 
Just a little heads up to our new (and so far deccent) dipper. Please stop refering to those cunts fom trafford, stretford, or wherever the fuck their shithole is, as the "Mancs". Thank you.
 
Sky Blue said:
Vic said:
Another query - did the ball go out of play on that attack where it was pulled back from the goal line and we had the ball in the net?
Yeah it did matey...

Did it?

I have seen one replay where you could see the line under the ball, but the camera angle was so low that it is impossible to say from that angle whether the whole of the ball had crossed the whole of the line.

Milner seemed pretty convinced it hadn't crossed the line. Whether that's any guide I don't know, but I haven't seen a replay from an angle that suggests he was wrong.
 
Olivavu said:
City have been on the good end of poor decisions.

It happens in football.

At the Etihad, Sterling wasn't offside and Lescott was pulling Suarez's shirt in the box.

And if you think officials favour Liverpool, what about the Carroll goal last week?

You mean this one? Which is still actually a dive because the shirt pulling doesn't throw him the opposite direction... unless Joleon is a jedi master and used the force? You can't bring shirt pulling up as an injustice against Liverpool, see: Martin Skrtel

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnPtuAbmsUI[/youtube]
 
CitizenTID said:
Olivavu said:
City have been on the good end of poor decisions.

It happens in football.

At the Etihad, Sterling wasn't offside and Lescott was pulling Suarez's shirt in the box.

And if you think officials favour Liverpool, what about the Carroll goal last week?

You mean this one? Which is still actually a dive because the shirt pulling doesn't throw him the opposite direction... unless Joleon is a jedi master and used the force? You can't bring shirt pulling up as an injustice against Liverpool, see: Martin Skrtel

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnPtuAbmsUI[/youtube]
Nah mate, that's the elastic in the shirt firing him when Lescott lets go, like in a cartoon. What people don't realise is that Suarez doesn't actually weigh anything, so even mild breezes can drastically change his direction in mid air. He's done well to have such a succesful career with such an unfortunate affliction
 
LPoolFan said:
zandvoort blue said:
LPoolFan said:
But the incident yesterday is one where we believe there's contact, so we defend it.

If you believe there was contact please explain why from the pictures I posted 2 pages ago that if Suarez had been caught by MDM then momentum would have caused him to fall to his left. But instead he has used his left foot to propel himself to his right. He knew exactly what he was doing, a premeditated DIVE, and most definitely a booking.

I already defended this point several times.

He makes a meal of it, exaggerates the contact so he gets the free kick. It isn't premeditated, he reacts to contact on his leading foot.

First off: Welcome

Second off: Your talking shit.

If there was contact (from Demichelis' foot moving from left to right), how does Suarez' foot (which has allegedly been caught) move to the left. If you are going to try and counter this point at the very least I expect a hypothesis from you of unknown laws of physics that the world has overlooked.
 
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.
 
"He makes a meal of it, exaggerates the contact so he wins a free kick"

If I'm ever up in court I hope you're not defending me, because in my book, that's the definition of a dive.
 
de niro said:
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.

Fuck me that is some conspiracy theory, never crossed my mind until I read your post.
 
It was Clattenburg that sent Bellamy off for a 'dive' when he was clearly caught v Bolton.

He also issued a second yellow to Torres for diving when he was caught by Evans v United.

If there was any contact (which there wasn't) it would have been so slight it would have been incapable of causing Suarez to fall over. He dived and it should have been a second yellow card.
 
de niro said:
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.

I always believed the Munich anniversary fixture against us was requested by the rags.......but if we had not fcuked up against Wigan we would have been playing at Wembley last weekend.<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:33 am --<br /><br />
de niro said:
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.

Maybe they chose us because we are impeccable :-)
 
Shirley said:
de niro said:
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.

I always believed the Munich anniversary fixture against us was requested by the rags.......but if we had not fcuked up against Wigan we would have been playing at Wembley last weekend.

-- Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:33 am --

de niro said:
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.

Maybe they chose us because we are impeccable :-)

I think the way the whole fixture list is arranged is very suspect. I remember the GPC complaining about it some years ago and attending a meeting where these things are arranged pre-season to "check" that the Rags weren't being disadvatntaged.

When I looked at the fixture list this season, and partlicularly our run-in, it concerned me that we had United away, Arsenal away, Liverpool away and Everton away and, I think, Spurs away in the second half of the season. In theory, it's a 50/50 chance that each fixture will fall home or away first so it struck me as odd, certainly unfortunate, that we would have to play virtually the entire (predictable) top six away in the second half of the season when the pressure was cranking up.

Haven't made up my mind one way or the other but I'll be watching very closely next year.
 
I thought it was common knowledge that the fixture list isn't random.It may have been in years gone by but now,given TV is the main consideration,how can it be?
 
FantasyIreland said:
I thought it was common knowledge that the fixture list isn't random.It may have been in years gone by but now,given TV is the main consideration,how can it be?

They say its random but that's bollocks. As you say sky pick it half the time, they then used to run it by the piss can.

I wonder where we will be next year new years day, for a noon ko.
 
de niro said:
FantasyIreland said:
I thought it was common knowledge that the fixture list isn't random.It may have been in years gone by but now,given TV is the main consideration,how can it be?

They say its random but that's bollocks. As you say sky pick it half the time, they then used to run it by the piss can.

I wonder where we will be next year new years day, for a noon ko.
Got my tickets booked for Ulan Bator sorted already
 
de niro said:
zandvoort blue said:
In 45 years of watching football both in this country and abroad I don`t believe I have witnessed a game where the referee made some many errors in the favour of only one of the teams concerned. And I don`t mean mistakes like cheap free kicks in the centre circle, I mean clear goal scoring/game changing incidents

really, watch ANY game he does involving us, he Foy, and the now departed peter Walton are corrupt to the core.

there are people who for one reason or another despise us for our money, fans, pundits and players. why not referees?

another thing I find odd is the timing of our game at Anfield.
on the anniversary of Hillsborough. of all the dates/times/clubs that could have add this fixture its us, the agenda victims, that get drawn there. odds on that?

then add EXACTLY the same scenario when the anniversary of Munich came around, of all the permutations that the "computer" could have thrown up it pits us at their place. not even at ours, their place, on the very day the tragedy was remembered.

coincidence?

both games?

not an earthly.

The only game that comes to mind any where near as controversial was Walton`s game a couple of years ago where we lost 1-0 at Goodison. We have 2 clear penalty claims turned down, 1 was a handball right in front of us. But taking into account 3 penalty claims, a missed red card and numerous other incidents I think this game far outweighs any other game I have witnessed. I would even question Suarez`s challenge on (was it) Silva in the build up to the first goal.
The decision that summed up Clattenberg was in the first half giving a foul against Silva when the ball was in the air on the edge of the Liverpool box from a corner. Silva only had eyes for the ball, whereas Suarez watched the player approach, made a back, then went down in a crumpled hep with his usual scream. End result free kick to Lpool on the edge of their box.
Concerning the result, I still don`t fell we got beat, just cheated.
 

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