Cheating Refs

Pingu the Penguin said:
moon said:
Think dippers will just point to the offside goal at the Etihad even though he got a lot more wrong

IT WASN'T A GOAL , HE WAS 30 YARDS OUT

Sorry, but winds me up this

Technically, he should have been booked for ignoring the refs whistle. The City players nearby clearly stopped when the whistle blew so why didn't he? Especially as he had 25 yards to run till he put it in the net. Anyway there were the 3 pens that were not given for Skrtel the "Boa Constrictor"'s antics at corners. It still staggers me that refs allow these antics but there you go.
 
Regarding the Chelsea game..I agree with Rat Boy’s analysis of the ref on Sunday. He set out to ref the game by the laws of the game to the letter forgetting that this was a highly charged game and that he would end up giving out cards like confetti. Unfortunately he bottled on the big decisions and his refereeing was not even handed between the 2 teams.
I have no complaint about the sending off – both yellow cards could have been avoided. I do however have plenty of complaints about Mike Dean – I think he was the wrong referee for the game
 
(Not specifically City related, but it concerns this thread so I thought I would post it here.)

After the rags capitulation on Sunday I thought I would have a look at the stats relating to rag games with Clattenberg in charge.

I found their league results for the last year on the BBC website. That shows that in the last 12 months Clattenberg has refereed 4 rag games - Leicester on Sunday, and last season Everton (a) in April, Liverpool (h) in March and Arsenal (a) in February. The website only goes back 12 months so I did not check the games prior to the derby game last September.

In the four rag games refereed by Clattenberg the rags have accumulated one point - the 0-0 draw at Arsenal. They lost on Sunday of course, lost at Everton and Liverpool wiped the floor with them at the swamp.

Given how gash they have been over the last year I found none of this particularly surprising.

What I found more surprising was that in those four games, Mr Clattenberg has awarded no less than six penalties against the rags. The two on Sunday, one for Everton in April, and three for the dippers - one of which Gerrard missed. That contrasts with all the other referees in the PL who have in the same period awarded against United a grand total of zero penalties. One phrase that jumped out at me from the West Ham match report was 'West Ham's penalty appeals were waved away by Mr Mason.' I have no particular theory to advance as to why there should be a big discrepancy between how frequently one referee awards penalties against them and how infrequently all the others do, but it is a remarkable statistic (if my research is accurate, and I would be pleased to be told if it is not) which of itself is worthy of note.

So, to sum up:

Clattenberg - 6 penalties awarded against the rags in 4 games
Every other PL referee put together - 0 penalties in 12 months.

If I was a rag I would worry about the first. Everyone who isn't a rag should perhaps worry more about the second.
 
^ To be fair, Clattenburg could, and probably should, of given about 6 penalties in that dippers game against the rags. 3 was about as few as he could get away with, as they seemed hell bent on fouling Liverpool in the box. Bizarre game that
 
Keep your eye on the amount of yellows being handed out in our games. It's been discussed previously but were picking up an unusual amount of cards recently despite having one of the highest possession stats in the league. Wouldn't surprise me if the FA are coming down hard on our type of play which looks to win back possession ASAP with strong but fair tackles. This style has been praised by all ex playing pundits yet in the last 2 games in particular us but also our opponents have received far more bookings than in any other game that week. The aggregate of the bookings against us in each games means were on course for 6 players receiving a 1 game ban and 2 players receiving 1+2 game bans by new year.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Pingu the Penguin said:
moon said:
Think dippers will just point to the offside goal at the Etihad even though he got a lot more wrong

IT WASN'T A GOAL , HE WAS 30 YARDS OUT

Sorry, but winds me up this

Technically, he should have been booked for ignoring the refs whistle. The City players nearby clearly stopped when the whistle blew so why didn't he? Especially as he had 25 yards to run till he put it in the net. Anyway there were the 3 pens that were not given for Skrtel the "Boa Constrictor"'s antics at corners. It still staggers me that refs allow these antics but there you go.

This is where referees cheat on an industrial scale. Were any player to perform a two-armed clamp on an opponent on the halfway line with a clear run at goal, he would be sent off. AND THE DIRECT FREE KICK WOULD BE AWARDED. They ignore incidents that are clearly catered for in the written Laws of the Game.
 
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Keep your eye on the amount of yellows being handed out in our games. It's been discussed previously but were picking up an unusual amount of cards recently despite having one of the highest possession stats in the league. Wouldn't surprise me if the FA are coming down hard on our type of play which looks to win back possession ASAP with strong but fair tackles. This style has been praised by all ex playing pundits yet in the last 2 games in particular us but also our opponents have received far more bookings than in any other game that week. The aggregate of the bookings against us in each games means were on course for 6 players receiving a 1 game ban and 2 players receiving 1+2 game bans by new year.

Good points, City play aggressively and are shown lots of cards. But it is still ridiculous that Zab committed two fouls on Sunday and was sent off for it.
 
buckshot said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Keep your eye on the amount of yellows being handed out in our games. It's been discussed previously but were picking up an unusual amount of cards recently despite having one of the highest possession stats in the league. Wouldn't surprise me if the FA are coming down hard on our type of play which looks to win back possession ASAP with strong but fair tackles. This style has been praised by all ex playing pundits yet in the last 2 games in particular us but also our opponents have received far more bookings than in any other game that week. The aggregate of the bookings against us in each games means were on course for 6 players receiving a 1 game ban and 2 players receiving 1+2 game bans by new year.

Good points, City play aggressively and are shown lots of cards. But it is still ridiculous that Zab committed two fouls on Sunday and was sent off for it.

Especially since the first yellow wasn't even a foul.
 
SebastianBlue said:
buckshot said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Keep your eye on the amount of yellows being handed out in our games. It's been discussed previously but were picking up an unusual amount of cards recently despite having one of the highest possession stats in the league. Wouldn't surprise me if the FA are coming down hard on our type of play which looks to win back possession ASAP with strong but fair tackles. This style has been praised by all ex playing pundits yet in the last 2 games in particular us but also our opponents have received far more bookings than in any other game that week. The aggregate of the bookings against us in each games means were on course for 6 players receiving a 1 game ban and 2 players receiving 1+2 game bans by new year.

Good points, City play aggressively and are shown lots of cards. But it is still ridiculous that Zab committed two fouls on Sunday and was sent off for it.

Especially since the first yellow wasn't even a foul.
Agresive walking? that still winds me up.
 
andyhinch said:
SebastianBlue said:
buckshot said:
Good points, City play aggressively and are shown lots of cards. But it is still ridiculous that Zab committed two fouls on Sunday and was sent off for it.

Especially since the first yellow wasn't even a foul.
Agresive walking? that still winds me up.

Luv it , really Luv it. One game where he had a blinder - headline in some nondescript paper was " Horlicks puts them to sleep".
 

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