Chelsea 2017/2018

Chelsea fan's must be delighted that their team has twice downed tools after falling out with a manager. Play for the fan's you faaaacking muppets!

The team Conte puts out is average at best, the way he sets the team up getavthe best out of nobody. 7 defensive players, 3 of whom are Watford level players themselves. We can't accuse the players downing tools this time. It' Conte.
 
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2015 - Win Prem
2016 - Down tools, sack manager
2017 - Win Prem and reach cup final
2018 - Down tools, sack manager
2019?
They might have done reasonably well in other cups (including LC this season) but I can't be arsed checking.
 
2015 - Win Prem
2016 - Down tools, sack manager
2017 - Win Prem and reach cup final
2018 - Down tools, sack manager
2019?
They might have done reasonably well in other cups (including LC this season) but I can't be arsed checking.

Downing tools is just a narrative that will most likely be pushed if/when Conte gets the sack.

Look at the team that started vs Watford. Zappacosta, Cahill and Moses are Watford level players. Bakayoko isn't much better. These players would't even be good enough for City's bench. I mean, would you have them in your squad? Luiz is still injured and we played with no striker or a midfielder who can control a football. 4-1 is not downing tools. It's exactly what this team is.
 
Heard from someone who is reasonably well connected that at Chelsea the fate of Conte was sealed even before the season started.
Apparently Abramovich was livid with him regarding the way he treated Costa and his fate was sealed from then on.
The sentiment being that love him or hate him Costa is a world class striker who delivered and doing what Conte did to him did not
benefit the club in any way. They couldn't sack Conte as he had just won the title (sound familiar?) so decided not to back him
in the transfer market at all (sound familiar?) and just let him wither on the vine.
Conte knows it and the players know it - hence the results.

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I also don't know what the club expects. Managers like Conte and Mourinho, with their overly, physically intensive training methods (run, run, run until you legs fall off) have a really short life-span. Their football is dull, their training methods are unpopular, their tactics are unpopular with both players and fans, it was obvious that as soon as results begin to go wrong, the very few who were willing to give those methods and tactics an opportunity lose faith in it quickly. There is nothing to believe in with these managers. Nothing about them that pulls you in.

Look at City after last season. You weren't happy with how the season went and the quality of some of the players in your team, but you knew the club and manager were building towards something. There's none of that at Chelsea. Neville said the other day, looking at the transfers we have made under Conte, that it'll take years undo this Conte era. Even if he leaves tomorrow, we're still left with Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Alonso on long term contracts. Moses and Cahill both signed new contracts in the last 2 years. That is 7 players that have no business playing for Chelsea at this level. It's patently obvious that Conte does not want to be here, so essentially, if anybody has downed tools, it is Conte himself.
 
How long before Hazard tries to force his way out ?

He can't be happy playing with so many players who are nowhere near his level and in a system that basically puts the entire onus on him to make things happen from an attacking sense.

I'd be surprised if he hasn't already had that conversation with his agent. Maybe that's why the rumours about City surfaced.
 
The only two players who bothered last night were Kante and Hazard. Disgusting performance from the Chelsea players even before they went down to 10. No heart, passion, commitment etc - nothing. If we think they are going to do us a favour and take points of the shite in a few weeks we are sadly mistaken unless something strange happens that day.
 
Heard from someone who is reasonably well connected that at Chelsea the fate of Conte was sealed even before the season started.
Apparently Abramovich was livid with him regarding the way he treated Costa and his fate was sealed from then on.
The sentiment being that love him or hate him Costa is a world class striker who delivered and doing what Conte did to him did not
benefit the club in any way. They couldn't sack Conte as he had just won the title (sound familiar?) so decided not to back him
in the transfer market at all (sound familiar?) and just let him wither on the vine.
Conte knows it and the players know it - hence the results.

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That just seems impractical. Why throw a whole season down the toilet before it's even started just to save face? If what you say is true, they could have just sacked him in the summer and said they didn't like the way he alienates our best players. It would have been shocking and some would have been upset, but it would have been better than what is happening now, even worse if it was a disaster season that they not only allowed to happen, but actually planned and facilitated because they were too scared to fire someone they were going to sack within 12 months anyway.

For all his faults, I don't think the Costa situation is on him. Costa has been wanting to leave ever since he got here. He famously admitted himself, that when Conte first got here he told him he wanted to re-join Atletico, to which Conte said, fine but we need to find our reaplcement before he can leave. Atletico did not want to wait around so they signed Gramiero and Costa knew his chance to leave that summer was gone, so went and apologised to Conte and said he would fight for the team. We won the title that year but not before more China shenanigans during the season. Costa wanted to leave the entire time and eventually got his wish.
 
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