Chelsea (a) post match thread

I agree, some of his passing and crossing are superb but I was looking at it from Pep's perspective of his holy mantra of keeping possession. From my perspective he needs to work harder and stop giving the ball away from easy positions.
He'll get it right. KDB can be world class one minute and Dog & Duck the next and back to world class again. I think the deeper lying creative position suits him and gives us another dimension to Silva mastery of control and possession.

I look at us now and for the first time in 4 years, I can actually see where we're going with this....... BUT so can everyone else! Next season promises to be a tasty affair mate......... I can't wait! :-)
 
They announced disruption on the District Line (the line FB is on) at full time and suggested fans go to Earls Court. A minute or so later they said no westbound trains were running through FB. I assume you weren't heading west. It's possible the problem was over very quickly as Earls Court didn't seem too crowded when we got there.
As for "what tourists"; please join Mike Dean in the queue at Specsavers.

The disruption on the Tube afterwards was a major ballache. Took ages to get back.

As for tourists, I've no issue with them per se, but it was a bit of a pisstake last night. There was a group of about 20 sat next to us, and a few of them cheered when Chelsea scored. They all got ejected eventually, leaving only me, my son and a couple of others on our entire row, but it begs the question how they managed to get that many tickets together in the first place.
 
It just really gets to me when some can't see that there's a plan in place, as opposed to the last three seasons where most of us were thinking WTF!

All the neutrals I spoke to today said we smashed Chelsea and looked totally superior. You CAN be the better team and lose and last night we proved that with loads to spare. We went to Stamford Bridge and made Chelsea defend for their lives at times with a 10-man defence. Now that takes some doing at any point over the last 15 years!

Keep the faith and give Pep the time he needs to reverse the decline we've all seen coming for the last 3-4 years. The difference between then and now, is that we have a plan and we have been blessed with Jesus our young Lord and our saviour. Trust me, if he'd have played last night, we'd have won. THREE times Aguero could have played a killer pass, but he decided to go for glory, and the few & far between chances we had were lost.

Think about the performance last night and forget the result for now. Think about Jesus & Gundogan returning and the replacements for some of our players who are reaching the end of their top side careers. From the end of last season, it's not been about the now, it's been about our immediate future, and if last nights performance is anything to go by, all I can say is WOW!

Even Delph looked like the player we hoped we'd got! Keep the faith brothers, I feel like we could be on the cusp of something special, but don't believe for a moment that any other PL challenger is just going to bend over, lube up and let us stiff them until they're red raw without them giving us a right scrap. Those days are long gone and Leicester proved that last season.

I've read some of your posts and you articulate some of the things I've said to people around me. On Aguero, there are too many times to count when the better option would be a pass to a teammate in a goal scoring position. Greed may be a factor (as he's a striker). It may also be psychological is what others would say. As he doesn't want to lose his place he tries too much. If that's the case he's going about it the wrong way. If I'm home watching the game, I'll be beckoning the pass is there, the pass is there but he keeps running or trying to take his man on. It's not just this season. Possibly the past 2 seasons now. One can only hope he fully adapts his game.

I personally feel a few players need to sit out of the team and a few unexpected players to stay in the team i.e.Delph. Bags of energy. Good st tackling. Saw some proper ones yesterday. Can't remember when I saw a City player going in like he did. It was somewhat refreshing (not like the Otamendi slide of doom when he misses his). Dinho has looked off for a while now. All that time playing for 2 people has finally caught up to him. He gets into challenges late. He can read the situation but can't move as quickly. May just be age as well. Silva doesn't defend as much. He has his moments when he tracks back but one could say his pros outweigh his cons. Sterling, capable of dangerous moments but far too conservative. KDB needs some rest and to look over his general game. Sané needs to play without fear. Rather than passing all the time when he gets to the final 3rd, he can have a shot. His final ball needs some work but he has the skills to beat men and a powerful left. He should grab the game by the neck as well.

There is a certain direction the team is headed in. Yes, some of the performances have been frustrating. However, you can see the foundation Pep has put in place. It all needs to gel and the personnel to implement the ideas are needed. In the future, I'm certain their profligacy in front of goal will be less. Vinny back could be a boost if he's fit.
 
It just really gets to me when some can't see that there's a plan in place, as opposed to the last three seasons where most of us were thinking WTF!

All the neutrals I spoke to today said we smashed Chelsea and looked totally superior. You CAN be the better team and lose and last night we proved that with loads to spare. We went to Stamford Bridge and made Chelsea defend for their lives at times with a 10-man defence. Now that takes some doing at any point over the last 15 years!

Keep the faith and give Pep the time he needs to reverse the decline we've all seen coming for the last 3-4 years. The difference between then and now, is that we have a plan and we have been blessed with Jesus our young Lord and our saviour. Trust me, if he'd have played last night, we'd have won. THREE times Aguero could have played a killer pass, but he decided to go for glory, and the few & far between chances we had were lost.

Think about the performance last night and forget the result for now. Think about Jesus & Gundogan returning and the replacements for some of our players who are reaching the end of their top side careers. From the end of last season, it's not been about the now, it's been about our immediate future, and if last nights performance is anything to go by, all I can say is WOW!

Even Delph looked like the player we hoped we'd got! Keep the faith brothers, I feel like we could be on the cusp of something special, but don't believe for a moment that any other PL challenger is just going to bend over, lube up and let us stiff them until they're red raw without them giving us a right scrap. Those days are long gone and Leicester proved that last season.

Sorry, but most of what you've said is just unadulterated bollocks.

"we smashed Chelsea and looked totally superior". Priceless. We lost. We had zero shots on target in the second half of a game which you believe we had "loads to spare" in. Please give me, in no particular order, the litany of saves Courtois had to make to keep them in the game. As I say, any order, I'm not bothered which you start or end with.

"Reverse the decline we've all seen coming for the last 3-4 years". Really? tell me, when, in 2014, we were putting SIX past Arsenal and SIX past Spurs and utterly annihilating ALL the top teams, what decline were you talking about? You weren't. And you wouldn't. That season we were sublime. We scored for fun, we battered everyone. Decline? In your head maybe.

If you want to say "WOW" about a game that Chelsea won; if you want to say "WOW" about a City performance that saw us score once. And lose. Go ahead. I'll reserve my excitement for a performance that properly warrants a "WOW". Last night's didn't. By a fucking long chalk.
 
Someone needs to say it as it was.

Mancini like Pellegrini had one decent season and the rest was mainly fucking turgid. It wasn't that long ago not to remember the crap performances and defeats yet its like history is being re written on here yet again.

Fans constantly longing for his return are a complete fucking embarrassment and i will tell you why. Not a fucking peep from any of them when things are going well, not one peep yet as soon as we lose a game they are back on moaning and whining.

Some are far more interested in being proven right on an internet forum at times than they are City doing whats required and moving forwards.

We played well last night. Some of the attacking play is on a different level to anything else seen in this league and but for some lax finishing and the final ball, we are not far off. Kun, Sane, Jesus, Sterling, KdB, Merlin gracing the pitch yet its moan fucking moan. "Should have backed Bobby" is the cry yet you all forget one thing. he would have spunked money on Van Persie and whilst it might have won a league, we can only guess he too would have been gone now and those players mentioned Merlin and Kun aside probably wouldn't be here and we would be watching the Ballotelli show week in week out or at least we would when he wasn't suspended.

We need new full backs, a keeper and a dominant CM. We can all see it, we have all said it and we have all acknowledged it will happen this summer when several contracts are up and players will leave that are just no longer up to it. What do you want Pep to do in the meantime? Play players he doesn't have? Chelsea barely mustered a shot 2nd half last night and but for a deflection and some poor goalkeeping and a lucky deflection yet again off the penalty save they have actually done fuck all. They didn't out play us, we out played them for large periods yet some just dont want to see it.

Pep came in and said we are going to change the mentality of the club. Not just the tam, the club and he said on several occasions its going to take time. We are competing against clubs with decades of experience at the very top when in reality we have been there for a few years. We went unbeaten at the start of the season but he kept telling us we would lose game, lots of games and he has been proven right. Maybe he knew then the quality in the squad wasn't of the required standard? He told us it wasn't a quick fix and that his job would take several years. Did anyone actually listen to what he said or was it in one ear and out the other?

Best owner in world football, some of the best talent in world football and without a doubt, the best manager in world football as shown by his record and for those that will harp on its easy when you are with Barca and Bayern, his job here is to turn us into those same sort of elite clubs that for the next 50 years will dominate the game because he has changed our mentality into the same as theirs. Winners!

The fans also need to change their mentality. Its not all about the next game or the next few weeks. it will take time but it will happen because everything our owner planned for when he came in and promised he has delivered and in Pep, he will deliver once more. If you cant see the improvements being made within the club as a whole i feel sorry for you. if you cant see what he is trying to do out on the pitch i feel sorry for you. Pragmatism is thown around here like confetti. You want pragmatism? Watch a Mourinho side or a Pulis side because that's pragmatism. Turgid, crap anti football that harps back to the days of muddy pitches, big lad up front and shouts of "get rid" from the sidelines and "get it up to the big man up front".

No fucking thanks because we are better than that and it might win the odd battle but it wont win the war because we will win the war.

Finally refs and linesmen are screwing us over every single game. See that for what it is and accept it and instead or turning on the team, direct some of that anger at them because they are costing us big time. Such fine lines in football and this season we have been royally fucked over and its costs us so many points its untrue. We get what we where due and the league table looks very different and the mood on here is very different. Its not Peps fault they are bent, nor is it Merlin's or Raheem's and like us, the players are fucked off with it as well but its a battle right now and we all have to take the fight to them and win the war.

Its a passionate game and we all love this club but some of the stuff written after a defeat is cringe worthy and downright disrespectful.

Post of the season. You've articulated clearly and conscisly what I think. Kudos.
 
Sorry, but most of what you've said is just unadulterated bollocks.

"we smashed Chelsea and looked totally superior". Priceless. We lost. We had zero shots on target in the second half of a game which you believe we had "loads to spare" in. Please give me, in no particular order, the litany of saves Courtois had to make to keep them in the game. As I say, any order, I'm not bothered which you start or end with.

"Reverse the decline we've all seen coming for the last 3-4 years". Really? tell me, when, in 2014, we were putting SIX past Arsenal and SIX past Spurs and utterly annihilating ALL the top teams, what decline were you talking about? You weren't. And you wouldn't. That season we were sublime. We scored for fun, we battered everyone. Decline? In your head maybe.

If you want to say "WOW" about a game that Chelsea won; if you want to say "WOW" about a City performance that saw us score once. And lose. Go ahead. I'll reserve my excitement for a performance that properly warrants a "WOW". Last night's didn't. By a fucking long chalk.
WOW, look at Mr Angry! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! :-)

I'm not going to get into anything with you, because if your angry little self couldn't see what was coming 3 years ago, you certainly won't be able to see where we're heading now. OK, so me and EVERY other neutral plus two Chelsea fans I spoke to today got it completely wrong? OK Looool :-) Even 2 Scousers who I work with said that we gave Liverpool their hardest games of the season! We're nowhere near where we want to be, but the signs are definitely there. If you can't see that, then tough.

Everyone sees things differently as we both obviously do, but at times like this (Just as I've done in the recent past), I tend to read in between the lines and watch frequency and trends, and what I and many others see gives us hope and optimism that we're turning our fortunes around and heading in the right direction.

You failed to see where we were going wrong 3-4 season ago, and you're failing to see what we're doing right now. I'm only here for the friendly Blues banter, so if your angry arse wants to carry on with its angry little self, by all means carry on being angry but please put it on someone else who gives a toss about your angry opinion because I definitely don't. With due respect of course.....
 
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I've read some of your posts and you articulate some of the things I've said to people around me. On Aguero, there are too many times to count when the better option would be a pass to a teammate in a goal scoring position. Greed may be a factor (as he's a striker). It may also be psychological is what others would say. As he doesn't want to lose his place he tries too much. If that's the case he's going about it the wrong way. If I'm home watching the game, I'll be beckoning the pass is there, the pass is there but he keeps running or trying to take his man on. It's not just this season. Possibly the past 2 seasons now. One can only hope he fully adapts his game.

I personally feel a few players need to sit out of the team and a few unexpected players to stay in the team i.e.Delph. Bags of energy. Good st tackling. Saw some proper ones yesterday. Can't remember when I saw a City player going in like he did. It was somewhat refreshing (not like the Otamendi slide of doom when he misses his). Dinho has looked off for a while now. All that time playing for 2 people has finally caught up to him. He gets into challenges late. He can read the situation but can't move as quickly. May just be age as well. Silva doesn't defend as much. He has his moments when he tracks back but one could say his pros outweigh his cons. Sterling, capable of dangerous moments but far too conservative. KDB needs some rest and to look over his general game. Sané needs to play without fear. Rather than passing all the time when he gets to the final 3rd, he can have a shot. His final ball needs some work but he has the skills to beat men and a powerful left. He should grab the game by the neck as well.

There is a certain direction the team is headed in. Yes, some of the performances have been frustrating. However, you can see the foundation Pep has put in place. It all needs to gel and the personnel to implement the ideas are needed. In the future, I'm certain their profligacy in front of goal will be less. Vinny back could be a boost if he's fit.
Pep has had a season not only seeing what his players are like in person, he also now knows for real what the PL is all about. I think his professional pride will drive him on to prove himself and to succeed. He knows it won't be easy, but I think he'll now have a very clear idea of what he needs to do to achieve our goals.

It's such a shame that we've not had Vinny for such a long time, because he brings a calm and authority with him when he plays that we miss when he's out. I just hope with careful management that we can get another 2-3 good seasons out of him whilst we find his long term successor. Again I agree with you about Aguero. We've drawn 3 and lost one in the same period that he's scored 8. The arrival of Jesus who is more of a team player saw the rise in our fortunes and his injury saw the slide in our fortunes in equal measures.

I'm pretty confident that Pep knows what he has to do and I reckon it might take him another couple of seasons if I'm being realistic. But even if we're not winning titles, as long as I can see major progress, I suppose the wait to get us back to our 2012 levels and beyond will be well worth the wait. As they say, 'The difficult takes time, the impossible take just that little bit longer'.
 
Pep has had a season not only seeing what his players are like in person, he also now knows for real what the PL is all about. I think his professional pride will drive him on to prove himself and to succeed. He knows it won't be easy, but I think he'll now have a very clear idea of what he needs to do to achieve our goals.

It's such a shame that we've not had Vinny for such a long time, because he brings a calm and authority with him when he plays that we miss when he's out. I just hope with careful management that we can get another 2-3 good seasons out of him whilst we find his long term successor. Again I agree with you about Aguero. We've drawn 3 and lost one in the same period that he's scored 8. The arrival of Jesus who is more of a team player saw the rise in our fortunes and his injury saw the slide in our fortunes in equal measures.

I'm pretty confident that Pep knows what he has to do and I reckon it might take him another couple of seasons if I'm being realistic. But even if we're not winning titles, as long as I can see major progress, I suppose the wait to get us back to our 2012 levels and beyond will be well worth the wait. As they say, 'The difficult takes time, the impossible take just that little bit longer'.

Agree with everything thing you said. In the meantime, next up is Hull. Onwards and upwards.
 
WOW, look at Mr Angry! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! :-)

I'm not going to get into anything with you, because if your angry little self couldn't see what was coming 3 years ago, you certainly won't be able to see where we're heading now. OK, so me and EVERY other neutral plus two Chelsea fans I spoke to today got it completely wrong? OK Looool :-) Even 2 Scousers who I work with said that we gave Liverpool their hardest games of the season! We're nowhere near where we want to be, but the signs are definitely there. If you can't see that, then tough.

Everyone sees things differently as we both obviously do, but at times like this (Just as I've done in the recent past), I tend to read in between the lines and watch frequency and trends, and what I and many others see gives us hope and optimism that we're turning our fortunes around and heading in the right direction.

You failed to see where we were going wrong 3-4 season ago, and you're failing to see what we're doing right now. I'm only here for the friendly Blues banter, so if your angry arse wants to carry on with its angry little self, eell carry on being angry but please put it on someone else who cares as I don't. With due respect still.[/QUOT

Yep, I failed to see where we were going wrong in the following games of 2013/2014:

City 6 Spurs 0
City 4 Utd 1
City 6 Arsenal 3
Spurs 1 City 4
Unitd 0 City 3

Failed to see, as we broke through the 100 goals barrier that the team weren't that good.
Failed to see, as they became the only City team to have ever win a cup and league domestic double.
Give me that blindness over your clear as fuck vision that thinks we "smashed" Chelsea.

And as we lifted the premiership trophy AND the league cup, I must have been blinded by all those victories; it was a mirage; a chimera. We were, actually, playing shite. Yep, you're right. I should have been thinking "fuck me, City hammering everyone, I should be worried."

I bow to your superior knowledge. And that of "EVERY neutral and two Chelsea fans" (quantitative data not your strong point is it?).

Last night City were beaten by a Chelsea team that would have been thrashed by Mancini's 2012 and Peller's 2014 teams. We've gone backwards. Massively. I'd love to be able to say I can see the grass shoots of a team that's going to dominate. It ain't happening. But if you think differently, go ahead. Maybe Delph is coveted by all the top european outfits. Maybe you're right...
 

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