Chelsea (a) post match thread

[meltonblue]

Comparing Conte and Guardiola is ridiculous though, Conte was always going to get better results in the short term. If Guardiolas football was easy to implement then everyone would be playing it, the point of it is how good it is once it's embedded, which takes time (and players capable of doing it, which is what we will get in the summer and continue to get).

Even just having Jesus and Gundogan fit and we'd be a lot better than we are now, let alone having half decent fullbacks.

 

[kaz7]

Pep says he "absolutely" believes City were the better team and is happier with this performance than the Arsenal one, despite the result.

 

[The-Dogs-Pollocks]

This. Some complete KFA fans on here tonight.

The standard response to any criticism of Pep - Remember the shit old days, Read his book, Look at what he did at Barcelona, blah, blah, bullshit.

 

[deano ou812]

I totally agree but could our back 4 defend like Chelsea - throwing elbows etc. of course not. Any contact from a City defender results in a free kick and usually a yellow card. In both games against Chelsea the rules have been applied differently to the two teams. We don't defend well but we can't have ANY contact.

Spot on,was again the same tonight countless fouls from Chelsea and a few snide ones as well,but as soon as we tackle it's a free kick straight away or a booking Chelsea like most teams the ref gives them a few warnings then books if he has to,and someone posted the nailed on pen for Chelsea which it was,but if that had happened other end of the pitch play on or city player booked,we actually could have had a possible shout when Cahill wrestled with kompany in the box,strange as dean couldn't contain himself to give these type of pens earlier in the season..

 

[blue ranger]

I fully back Pep but have to say he is making so many mistakes this season. Biggest disappointment has been his use of subs from bench. We don't seem to have a plan B. Really disappointed Sterling wasn't brought on much earlier, ditto Yaya and the decision to jettison hart looks worse with every game we play as caballero poor for both goals tonight. Oh well, that's the tough 3 game run done, let's get top 4 nailed and an FA cup win. Happy with delph performance tonight, looked better than Fernandinho who has been poor for months.

 

[Phil1]

Pep is the best in the business and over the coming years you will look back at nights like this and think of your over reactions and just laugh!

He won't, he fancies himself as a football coach when really he's just a bit of a dick.

 

[borassic]

Haha! Some bloke off the Internet saying one of the most decorated managers in football is "thick as pigshit" cheers you up on nights like this.

reckon edinburgh speaks 6 languages

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Sorry mate but I am sick of spending a fortune flying round the country to watch slow boring build up play that patently doesn't work. And don't just say "don't go then" I have been going 35 years and whilst we are in such a lucky position compared to most of that we are not making he most of it. Pep has no different tactics. They had no interest in attacking second half so we keep all our defenders and defensive midfielders on - why?

Obviously just to piss you off. It seems to have worked.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

On a positive note, well done vinny. Hope he's good for the run in. Also wel played Delph, I was critical of his inclusion but he was arguably our best performer.

Great to see him back....fucking dirty git Costa looking to hit his knee, that was premeditated imo

 

[Paul_Powers_Tash]

But I thought Pep was the great man manager?

And so did/do I. But has he got the grit and determination, win at all costs mentality, to succeed in the Premier League. Under Mancini we played Stoke three times in close succession. Once in the league and twice in the cup. They kicked lumps out of us and Mancini's only complaint was that we were not strong enough to win that particular battle. He knew we needed to dominate teams. I hope Pep is starting to realise that. Pretty teams win nothing, ask Arsenal.

 

[edinburgh123]

Haha! Some bloke off the Internet saying one of the most decorated managers in football is "thick as pigshit" cheers you up on nights like this.

It is factually correct that your average footballer had less qualifications than your average guy on he street. Possibly because of education shortage. And I never said Pep was I said football managers in general (on the basis of football players) probably have less educational background.

 

[blueinsa]

He won't, he fancies himself as a football coach when really he's just a bit of a dick.

I know but i was being kind because im a Mod and im not allowed to break the code of conduct.

 

[aguero93:20]

Not saying Mike Dean is biased against City - just that he is a completely crap ref and shouldn't be anywhere near a PL game.

He should be sacked for letting Costa away with stamping out at Vinny's knee from the ground after the ball was gone without a red card. Didn't even give him a fucking yellow. As for Pedro being given a free for cleaning Silva out from behind, think he should be sectioned for that one.

 

[Juan King]

Some deluded people on here, we have been shite for ages but Pep can do no wrong. Nothing is his fault apparently! Happy clappers unite!

 

[Blue Coop]

He brought the right players on, just should have been for Clichy and Delph instead of taking our two most likely match-winners off.

Clichy, Navas, anyone who's never looked like doing anything remotely useful going forwards.

 

[seventeen hands]

Some incredible stupidity displayed on here tonight. Embarrassing.

 

[Phil1]

reckon edinburgh speaks 6 languages

He told us how much he earned once and how successful he is so maybe?

 

[RayCTID]

No. Last season they were a shambles. They had no vision, no belief and most importantly, they had an excuse. This season Conte has transformed Chelsea, given them the organisational rigour throughout the team that we lack, the passion and belief that we lack, and the desire and hunger to win in a professional, calculated and methodical manner, that we lack.

I love Pep but many of our failings this season ultimately stop at his door.

It may be effective but no way I would love us to play that way, and if we did we would be looking at suspensions every other week!. One false move from Conte and the whole thing at Chelsea will implode again.

 

[TheRisingoftheNorth]

It will be interesting to see how long Guardiola persists with this tippy-tappy stuff. I can admire him for sticking to his principles, but there comes a time to try something different (like actually getting the ball in the net). Presumably he thinks he can buy his way out of trouble in the summer, and maybe he can. God knows, something has to happen.

 

[kaz7]

Pep: "It's encouraging for the future. I'm optimistic. It's been like this all season but in the boxes we are not good enough."