Chelsea (H) | Post-Match Thread

paulchapo said:
Yes it's a hard choice but he has to play his first teamers or it will disrupt our rhythm. We can't just turn up on the day and click

I'm not so sure. Tuchel has got them well organised, is tactically astute and they have clinical match winners in the team. No surprise as they've invested heavily but of course that's rarely mentioned.
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Yes, but that aside we are the better side only utd have got the better of us so far this calendar year without us pretty much making wholesale changes. That is not true for his Chelsea side... they have been beaten on a number of occasions. Basically if we set up with our best 11 and play to our potential I think we will do the job.
 
Beanhead said:
Yes, but that aside we are the better side only utd have got the better of us so far this calendar year without us pretty much making wholesale changes. That is not true for his Chelsea side... they have been beaten on a number of occasions. Basically if we set up with our best 11 and play to our potential I think we will do the job.
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I don't think they've lost many since he arrived. Pep is going to have to pull off a tactical plan to stop their pace. The wingers have to occupy their wing backs particularly on the left where both goals came from today as they targeted Mendy. Zinchenkos isn't fast either so he'll need help. Mahrez gave Chillwell a torrid time when he played for Leicester so hopefully he'll do the same this game. We did a job on PSG so let's hope we do the same on Chelsea.

Today if the rags draw or lose we'll all feel better as that's the league as good as won. Two trophies won and a big one to look forward to. At the start of the season we'd never have believed it possible after our poor start.
 
paulchapo said:
I don't think they've lost many since he arrived. Pep is going to have to pull off a tactical plan to stop their pace. The wingers have to occupy their wing backs particularly on the left where both goals came from today as they targeted Mendy. Zinchenkos isn't fast either so he'll need help. Mahrez gave Chillwell a torrid time when he played for Leicester so hopefully he'll do the same this game. We did a job on PSG so let's hope we do the same on Chelsea.

Today if the rags draw or lose we'll all feel better as that's the league as good as won. Two trophies won and a big one to look forward to. At the start of the season we'd never have believed it possible after our poor start.
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In all competitions they have lost a fair few.. and haven’t made 8/9 changes once let alone 3 times. Basically we have lost one to their 4 maybe 5 when we have taken the game seriously (and not totally gutted the team) we have also played a far higher calibre of team.. cup finals, semis etc. Basically despite their improvement under him our best 11’s performance has shat on theirs in 2021 thus far..
 
CelesteItis said:
A hundred and eighty pages! FFS!.

No fucking way I'm reading all the wrist slitting.

Would someone, please kindly summarise it?
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Very difficult to summarise that but let's face it, we weren't going to beat Chelsea with that team.

I don't understand Pep playing that team, but he does strange things now and then, it would have been a fabulous week had he played the first team and beat them three nill.
For some reason he is saving the players even though the final is way off, it would have been a massive psychological boost to beat them today and they were there for the taking.
The trouble is they were the better team especially in the second half.

Aguero had the chance to put us two up but for some inexplicable reason he decided just to dink it very very tamely, it made me very sad to see him do that and for the goalkeeper to deal with it so easily, almost embarrassing from Kun.
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The penalty decision was laughable I don't see the point of VAR if they can't see that that was a penalty no question about it.
Like Pep and Kun, another inexplicable decision.

I, and I suspect the majority of city fans are left completely bewildered and disappointed after a fantastic week when we made the champions League final... I feel completely deflated, not just cos we lost but that could be the last we see of the great Sergio Aguero.
 
paulchapo said:
I don't think they've lost many since he arrived. Pep is going to have to pull off a tactical plan to stop their pace. The wingers have to occupy their wing backs particularly on the left where both goals came from today as they targeted Mendy. Zinchenkos isn't fast either so he'll need help. Mahrez gave Chillwell a torrid time when he played for Leicester so hopefully he'll do the same this game. We did a job on PSG so let's hope we do the same on Chelsea.

Today if the rags draw or lose we'll all feel better as that's the league as good as won. Two trophies won and a big one to look forward to. At the start of the season we'd never have believed it possible after our poor start.
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just checked..

Draw with southampton
Draw with utd
Draw with Leeds
Loss to West Brom
Loss to Porto
Draw with Brighton
Draw with Real Madrid

And if I’m frank... you could factor at least one loss against us if we didn’t play largely our second string. They also leave it tight.. hardly won a game by more than a one goal margin.

They are chasing top 4.. we have had the league rapped up for a month. When playing our best side we have lost one game against (rather annoyingly) the rags.

Their form simply isn’t close to ours. It really isn’t.
 
Fuck me that was a shit penalty.

but at the end of the day we’re 13 points clear so whatever!

And as for the final, we’ve all seen how city can play when the chips are down, I’m hoping for more of thet
 
CelesteItis said:
A hundred and eighty pages! FFS!.

No fucking way I'm reading all the wrist slitting.

Would someone, please kindly summarise it?
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Fine margins. A penalty miss and another definite one denied and the result would of been more positive. Mixed in with mistake from Rodri on the first goal. A bright spot is it stops Liverpool from sneaking back in, although Leicester are doing their best in keeping the backdoor open for them.
 
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blkswn said:
We don't know that. I guess you can understand the fans being upset as they are our CL opponents, we just expected a bit more seriousness maybe.

Of course this won't be the way we play, of course it is not our strongest XI, and of course we will make changes and be a lot more aggressive. But all that said, let's not undermine them. They have made the CL finals after all, no matter how easy the route was. In a one-off game anything is possible. No first timers in a CL final have ever won it. Lots of other factors. We shouldn't be overanalysing the final right now, but the point is, we should also not be taking them lightly.
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Didn’t the rags win it first time in the final ?
 
Should have killed it with the aguero pen. Should have killed it with the stonewall pen on sterling. Gave the second string a chance and even so we probably should have won. No key players injured. Title delayed but still inevitable. One big fish left to fry...

Same as the Leeds game no need to get too worked up about it because the league is in the bag. Only one game matters now and if we play as we should that's that, signed sealed and delivered. Yes it was disappointing today but so what? If that's a modern day 'typical city' moment I'll take that all day every day every year over Blackburn away in the cup or Liverpool at home when we were relegated or jimmy bullard and Fulham doing us 3-2 after we were 2 nil up. One game matters now and we're the better team, turn up make history and that's that. It's been a tough time for everyone and these players have barely had a break for a long time. If we end up with the league and that sweet sweet Carabao then that's great, if we win the European Cup then they're all immortalised. Today means little or nothing and i'm sad aguero felt the need to apologise for his pen. No need for anyone, particularly him, to feel down about what has already been achieved this season. Just need to top it off with the European Cup, and today will have little bearing on that, it may even benefit us one way or another
 
Beanhead said:
just checked..

Draw with southampton
Draw with utd
Draw with Leeds
Loss to West Brom
Loss to Porto
Draw with Brighton
Draw with Real Madrid

And if I’m frank... you could factor at least one loss against us if we didn’t play largely our second string. They also leave it tight.. hardly won a game by more than a one goal margin.

They are chasing top 4.. we have had the league rapped up for a month. When playing our best side we have lost one game against (rather annoyingly) the rags.

Their form simply isn’t close to ours. It really isn’t.
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Their form since he took over has been a lot more impressive than the stats you've provided. In 25 matches they've only lost 2, with 17 wins and 6 draws.
 
CelesteItis said:
A hundred and eighty pages! FFS!.

No fucking way I'm reading all the wrist slitting.

Would someone, please kindly summarise it?
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We are all to jump off a cliff cos we are going to lose everything

Me? I’m looking forward to pep winning us the league and the champions league final .
 
blkswn said:
We don't know that. I guess you can understand the fans being upset as they are our CL opponents, we just expected a bit more seriousness maybe.

Of course this won't be the way we play, of course it is not our strongest XI, and of course we will make changes and be a lot more aggressive. But all that said, let's not undermine them. They have made the CL finals after all, no matter how easy the route was. In a one-off game anything is possible. No first timers in a CL final have ever won it. Lots of other factors. We shouldn't be overanalysing the final right now, but the point is, we should also not be taking them lightly.
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I think Chelsea are good and capable of beating us in the final even if we have full strength. Im just saying that today will have no baring on what will happen. Pep made a decision to rest the players, and the worst thats happened is we failed to win it as early as we could have. None of our first starters are injured. I reckon that the people moaning we didn’t go full strength would have been fuming if we played the first team and picked up an injury.
 
SamTheGuru said:
Tarnished is the word. The only other potential word now is redemption, if he is allowed the opportunity. I don't think he should be. The spirit the entire team have put in this season, personified from Foden through to Ferdy epitomises it.
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Tarnished?? Wipe you fanny mate!

He made our dreams reality!!!


(By the way he has scored 15 goals against Chelsea in the past for us)!
 
blkswn said:
We don't know that. I guess you can understand the fans being upset as they are our CL opponents, we just expected a bit more seriousness maybe.

Of course this won't be the way we play, of course it is not our strongest XI, and of course we will make changes and be a lot more aggressive. But all that said, let's not undermine them. They have made the CL finals after all, no matter how easy the route was. In a one-off game anything is possible. No first timers in a CL final have ever won it. Lots of other factors. We shouldn't be overanalysing the final right now, but the point is, we should also not be taking them lightly.
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Plenty of Teams have won the European Cup/ Champions League in their first final!

Celtic
United
Nottingham Forest
Liverpool
Benfica
Marseille
Red Star Belgrade
PSV Eindhoven
Ajax
 
When will pep learn, our best 14 or16 players are good, that team he picked today would not finish in the top half of the prem, but he thought he could get a result against chelsea. 3 time now he has fucked up making massive changes to the team. Soon as i saw the team iknew we would struggle , i thought a point would beok, but they were the best team ., cant just turn it on like a tap pep, as for the pen. wants fucking.
 
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