Chelsea hit with 74 FA charges for alleged rule breaches

Doubt it. Already the narrative has been set.
It was the previous owner, not us. It would be unjust to punish us and the fans for the actions of a criminal mob boss, who is no longer here. Also, we've been very cooperative. Won't do it again, honest. Hardly being reported on too.

By the way, I agree with you. They definitely received a sporting advantage, especially with Hazard, who was a target of ours.

What they should have done when they were looking at the accounts prior to the purchase, is to renegotiate the price to account for the coming shit storm. They couldn't divulge their findings due to signed NDAs which are part of the due diligence process. They might have been able to get a lower price before taking their lumps.
For some unknown reason the words of an old advert keep coming into my head

Todd Bohely: Dear Friends at the FA and PL . I know I'm a bit of a tricky dealer and like a good loophole but that huge stain was there before I bought the shirt . I'll do everything I can to wash it out, but I might need some help from your good selves

FA /PL : Fair play, my friend. You are such an clever chap and clearly one of us , the right sort . Here have some of our well used detergent , still lots left in the box although we've had to use a fair bit on some Raggie Red shirts in recent years .

Persil Washes Whiter .
 
How did these payments come to light during the due diligence process? If the payments were made by other Abramovich companies in offshore accounts, how were they found in Chelsea's books? And how do the new owners (or anyone) know the full extent of the leaks without having access to those company accounts?

Maybe the new owners already had wind of the Cyprus leaks and decided to come clean before the leaks surfaced.

So much for Chelsea cooperating fully and agreeing to stick to the rules on future (as they have promised to do). They then tested the rules to their absolute limits by selling assets to themselves, and trading youth players with other PSR threatened clubs. Hardly in the spirit of the rules.

Also, as @Prestwich_Blue has pointed out, the Oscar transfer looked extremely dodgy at the time, as did the numerous David Luiz transfers.
 
I think that's what annoys City fans. It goes on, they agree a deal so it doesn't damage the PL product. We all carry on. They've done that for decades, but in our case they've thrown the book at us and made it as public as they can.

City have had a bullseye on their backs for every media hack to fire at, created by the PL.

The blatant evidence of double standards has never been a concern for the football authorities, and it clearly demonstrates that the US-owned clubs are the ones that hold the power within the PL.

It is this influence which is the cancer that needs addressing.
 
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Anybody else believe Kaveh when he said there is no suggestion Hazard or Willian and others knew anything about the off the book payments made by Chelsea so cannot be implacated in any wrongdoing. You know, the bribes paid to their family members and agents. No of course not Kaveh you utter dick.
This is the same Kaveh Fuckwit who said that Rags were getting an £80 million player for £40 million when they signed Donny Van De Beek.
The same Donny Van De Beek who was sold to Girona for £500k
 
Anybody else believe Kaveh when he said there is no suggestion Hazard or Willian and others knew anything about the off the book payments made by Chelsea so cannot be implacated in any wrongdoing. You know, the bribes paid to their family members and agents. No of course not Kaveh you utter dick.

I'm afraid that anybody who relies upon Kaveh, or any of their presenters on Sky for accuracy is going to be sadly mistaken and disappointed.

Their "appeal" is focussed on the rag/dipper fuckwits who lap up their hype.
 
How did these payments come to light during the due diligence process? If the payments were made by other Abramovich companies in offshore accounts, how were they found in Chelsea's books? And how do the new owners (or anyone) know the full extent of the leaks without having access to those company accounts?

Maybe the new owners already had wind of the Cyprus leaks and decided to come clean before the leaks surfaced.

So much for Chelsea cooperating fully and agreeing to stick to the rules on future (as they have promised to do). They then tested the rules to their absolute limits by selling assets to themselves, and trading youth players with other PSR threatened clubs. Hardly in the spirit of the rules.

Also, as @Prestwich_Blue has pointed out, the Oscar transfer looked extremely dodgy at the time, as did the numerous David Luiz transfers.
My understanding is that the money was never paid via any of the clubs accounts.
Due diligence wouldn’t just be looking at the accounts and invoices it would be all over the place looking at for instance emails , little notes scribbled on a bit of paper and so on.
Let’s just suppose an agent says their fees are £2 million and there’s an email agreeing to that yet when the invoice comes in it’s only for £1 million. Unlikely to be picked up internally but during DD let’s suppose that email comes to light and gets checked back to the invoice and hey presto a massive question mark is added. Not saying that’s happened because I simply don’t know but I would imagine the people carrying out the DD would have been super skilled.
I am in no way justifying any of this but as I have pointed out on here before the hardest audits are those where nothing is in the accounts or supporting documents such as invoices.

We had defined boundaries where we could look when we carried out investigations during my working days.
As I may have already told the story on here one of my colleagues carried out an audit on a company and he couldn’t find a £1 incorrectly listed. The Directors deliberately weren’t around for the period my colleague and his team were at the company offices and had left a very junior member of staff to make coffee etc.
On the very last day my colleague when handing back core accounting documents said purely as a throw away comment something along the lines of “ These are fine can we now have the other set? “
With that the young clerk went to the safe and bought out a further cash book , another petty cash box and another set of paperwork detailing cash paid for their products and cash paid to suppliers of raw materials.

Cash really is king when it comes to dodgy dealings and when you have very rich owners I doubt they would struggle to get their hands on vast quantities of it.Indeed you don’t have to be rich how many can honestly say they haven’t paid cast to a tradesman to carry out work on their behalf ?

As for something being within the spirt of the rules sorry is that a thing? If the PL clubs had wanted to change the rules on any matter they could but choose not too
As for questioning sums paid in respect of transfers of course there are some that make you scratch your head but without hard evidence it’s no more than something put out there by conspiracy theorists.
 
How many of the papers owned by Americans? They are paid to spin a certain narrative!

The US ownership issue is a massive problem for the good of the PL, deeply entrenched and controlling the direction of flow.

Richard Masters as CEO - a perfect lap dog for the US bullies.
 
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I will always view Chelsea’s success under the Russian as tainted now.

They had some wonderful teams but cheated and hide it to gain a sporting advantage.

So I won’t be able to give them any praise and the fraudulent behaviour has definitely tarnished their achievements.

Any, repeat any chav fan that dares mention 115 without any proof can fuck off.

If the war in Ukraine did not happen, they would still be cheating and financially doping to stay in the top 4 and win a cup or two. Has pep asked mourinho for the league titles back yet? It was good enough for the eye gouger so…
 
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My understanding is that the money was never paid via any of the clubs accounts.
Due diligence wouldn’t just be looking at the accounts and invoices it would be all over the place looking at for instance emails , little notes scribbled on a bit of paper and so on.
Let’s just suppose an agent says their fees are £2 million and there’s an email agreeing to that yet when the invoice comes in it’s only for £1 million. Unlikely to be picked up internally but during DD let’s suppose that email comes to light and gets checked back to the invoice and hey presto a massive question mark is added. Not saying that’s happened because I simply don’t know but I would imagine the people carrying out the DD would have been super skilled.
I am in no way justifying any of this but as I have pointed out on here before the hardest audits are those where nothing is in the accounts or supporting documents such as invoices.

We had defined boundaries where we could look when we carried out investigations during my working days.
As I may have already told the story on here one of my colleagues carried out an audit on a company and he couldn’t find a £1 incorrectly listed. The Directors deliberately weren’t around for the period my colleague and his team were at the company offices and had left a very junior member of staff to make coffee etc.
On the very last day my colleague when handing back core accounting documents said purely as a throw away comment something along the lines of “ These are fine can we now have the other set? “
With that the young clerk went to the safe and bought out a further cash book , another petty cash box and another set of paperwork detailing cash paid for their products and cash paid to suppliers of raw materials.

Cash really is king when it comes to dodgy dealings and when you have very rich owners I doubt they would struggle to get their hands on vast quantities of it.Indeed you don’t have to be rich how many can honestly say they haven’t paid cast to a tradesman to carry out work on their behalf ?

As for something being within the spirt of the rules sorry is that a thing? If the PL clubs had wanted to change the rules on any matter they could but choose not too
As for questioning sums paid in respect of transfers of course there are some that make you scratch your head but without hard evidence it’s no more than something put out there by conspiracy theorists.
I find it hard to believe you haven't heard of the concept of the spirit of the game. Yes it is a thing.

From the FA Rules specifically for coaches, managers and club officials:

"ON AND OFF THE FIELD, I WILL:
• Use my position to set a positive example
• Show respect to others involved in the game including match officials, opposition players, coaches, managers, officials and spectators
• Adhere to the laws and spirit of the game
• Promote Fair Play and high standards of behaviour" et al.

Within The Laws of the Game, the introduction is a section headed "The Philosophy and Spirit of the Laws".

And then there are the PL requirements about acting in good faith towards other members, which I'm sure you'll be hearing more about when Masters gets his act together.
 
I will always view Chelsea’s success under the Russian as tainted now.

They had some wonderful teams but cheated and hide it to gain a sporting advantage.

So I won’t be able to give them any praise and the fraudulent behaviour has definitely tarnished their achievements.

Any, repeat any chav fan that dares mention 115 without any proof can fuck off.

If the war in Ukraine did not happen, they would still be cheating and financially doping to stay in the top 4 and win a cup or two. Has pep asked mourinho for the league titles back yet? It was good enough for the eye gouger so…
Abramovich ran chelsea like a mob organisation.
It has been documented in the past how journalists and executives alike were warned by Chelsea not to overstep and they were always afraid of them. If you read his Wikipedia page, you'll be amazed at the number of dodgy things he's done to get to where he wanted to.

What was interesting at the time is how they championed PSR or whatever it was called at the time, and I always wondered how they were able to generate the massive revenues needed to hoover up all the talent that they wanted.

When I found out it was interest free loans to the tune of 1.5 billion over a period of 20 years plus, when there were no 100 million players, I realised that it would have zero impact on them. It was truly a play thing for Abramovich, as he had no interest in sustainability, and he had enough petrogas rubles to spare.
 
Mancini is proven then funding of his contract came from a 3rd party
No, Mancini had a contract with a third party for services which he is entitled to do IIRC City did have a "foot note" to the effect but not the full details of the contract the PL have charged City for not having the full details, again IIRC someone pointed out that the rule regarding "full detail" was post the Mancini contract
 

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