Chelsea Thread 2014/15

[Bilboblue]

It's out of mind to compare Real Madrid's sitting back at Bayern and Mourinho's sitting back today for ex.

Madrid plays counter attack football as that's what their team is built for, they create loads with that kind of football, Chelsea didn't have any intention to go forward. I don't blame them though, it was extremely important match and it's result you care about in those, nothing else, we weren't set for frontal assault either. Who gives a shit they played utter negative football when they won Champions League, I'd sign parking bus for all our CL games and winning it this year.

I was talking in general and Chelsea had an exhausting League Cup game played at a very high intensity. It was the smart thing to do. Madrid won 4-0 so they obviously had things right. On another topic I think people are underestimating the effect the CL will have on the title race.

It's just this idea that you have to go and play like Barcelona and lose 6-3, 6-0 and 5-1. That's disgraceful. I would be furious if we had those results let alone Arsenal.

EDIT
Jovetic came on in the 90th minute. You were the more adventorous and obviously preferred to win, but you were not going full out for the win, which is the smart and right thing to do. It would have been stupid in my opinion to go all out for a victory. A draw gives you a great chance of winning the league, a loss would have been disastrous.

You used to be a decent poster, now you are abrasive just for the sake of it.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

A villa in need of points with Benteke and Sinclair along with Everton who may/may not turn up v Hull at home and Sjoke who are playing well.

Big couple of games I would hope we'll cut the gap a bit maybe to 3 points before the FA Cup break.

When we restart Yaya and Bony will be back with us and hopefully we can push on.

Someone needs to take points off Chelsea at home, we've broken the 100% win record now teams have to follow our lead.

 

[bitsmith]

It's out of mind to compare Real Madrid's sitting back at Bayern and Mourinho's sitting back today for ex.

Madrid plays counter attack football as that's what their team is built for, they create loads with that kind of football, Chelsea didn't have any intention to go forward. I don't blame them though, it was extremely important match and it's result you care about in those, nothing else, we weren't set for frontal assault either. Who gives a shit they played utter negative football when they won Champions League, I'd sign parking bus for all our CL games and winning it this year.

I was talking in general and Chelsea had an exhausting League Cup game played at a very high intensity. It was the smart thing to do. Madrid won 4-0 so they obviously had things right. On another topic I think people are underestimating the effect the CL will have on the title race.

It's just this idea that you have to go and play like Barcelona and lose 6-3, 6-0 and 5-1. That's disgraceful. I would be furious if we had those results let alone Arsenal.

EDIT
Jovetic came on in the 90th minute. You were the more adventorous and obviously preferred to win, but you were not going full out for the win, which is the smart and right thing to do. It would have been stupid in my opinion to go all out for a victory. A draw gives you a great chance of winning the league, a loss would have been disastrous.

Agree, it' was most important not to lose the game.

 

[city saint]

everyone saying they were tired,they had 4 days to recover, maybe Maureen not rotating is starting to bite but 4 days for professional sportsmen should be ample

 

[bitsmith]

everyone saying they were tired,they had 4 days to recover, maybe Maureen not rotating is starting to bite but 4 days for professional sportsmen should be ample

Chelsea have chronic problems after midweek games. Last year when they were on the top at about same time as now I said I'm not afraid of Chelsea but Liverpool, I knew they'd drop points when CL restarts. And exactly that happened, as soon as they started to play midweek CL games, they started to drop points. Shame they are out of FA Cup, there were points to drop after those games too if they stayed in it.

 

[mosssideblue]

They bought a better player in Zouma then we in Mangala unfortunately.

Fucking bullshit
Every time he was under any pressure or even when he wasn't he just booted in the air

Their best defender today. Defender's job is to protect his goal not to make brilliant pass after brilliant pass. He didn't make any mistake today and was pretty good in few semi-dangerous situations, coped pretty well with Aguero too.

This part of your thread makes sense. Claiming he is better than Mangala is as has been quoted "Fucking Bullshit", unless you want to quantify such a bold statement

 

[cookster]

They bought a better player in Zouma then we in Mangala unfortunately.

2 games where they parked the and he's better than Mangala, bollocks.

 

[supercrystal7]

You used to be a decent poster, now you are abrasive just for the sake of it.

I am definitely not trying to be abrasive and even less so offensive, but you have to give an honest opinion. I could be wrong and making stupid points, but they are not to offend, but it is how I saw the game. Always felt it was better to give an honest opinion.

everyone saying they were tired,they had 4 days to recover, maybe Maureen not rotating is starting to bite but 4 days for professional sportsmen should be ample

Chelsea have chronic problems after midweek games. Last year when they were on the top at about same time as now I said I'm not afraid of Chelsea but Liverpool, I knew they'd drop points when CL restarts. And exactly that happened, as soon as they started to play midweek CL games, they started to drop points. Shame they are out of FA Cup, there were points to drop after those games too if they stayed in it.

It's because Chelsea's squad is not as strong as the media point out, but more importantly Mourinho does not trust the squad. His lack of rotation begins to cost them when they have a fixture pile up. Also Chelsea in part to cover up weaknesses play a more high energy extensive game like Liverpool/Dortmund. City on the other hand have a far more controlled less taxing style, which is better over the course of the season. Pellegrini also has more faith in his players and is prepared to rotate them a lot more.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Better result for Chelsea considering the Liverpool game. Wasn't a particularly high quality game, but both teams were very nervous and settled for the draw. I don't think SKY were happy that so many big players were missing like Yaya, Fabregas, Costa etc.

Think the title will come down to who goes the furthest in the CL and a little bit with how Cuadradro does. City have the stronger squad, but Chelsea have the easier fixtures. If Chelsea get to say a CL semi and City go out to Barcelona then it could sway things in City's favour.

I think you are well wide of the mark. City wanted to win and tried to win. Chelsea parked the bus and tried to spoil the game. Small time mentality from Mourinho.

You dominated midifield and possession, but you did not commit to the victory either. You didn't bring on a second striker. The full backs were still fairly reserved and even when Lampard came on he was not given that much license to get into the box.

Said it another thread, but I don't understand this 'small time' mentality talk. Madrid the biggest team in the world went to Bayern and sat back. Bayern Munich have sat back against Dortmund. Italian football dominated the 90s with the idea of being defensive.

There is nothing smart or glorious about playing suicidal football and losing. I bet you criticise Wenger for being naive.

I'm sorry, but more more bollocks from you. We didn't bring on a 2nd striker, because, why change the shape of a team that is so dominant.

 

[supercrystal7]

I think you are well wide of the mark. City wanted to win and tried to win. Chelsea parked the bus and tried to spoil the game. Small time mentality from Mourinho.

You dominated midifield and possession, but you did not commit to the victory either. You didn't bring on a second striker. The full backs were still fairly reserved and even when Lampard came on he was not given that much license to get into the box.

Said it another thread, but I don't understand this 'small time' mentality talk. Madrid the biggest team in the world went to Bayern and sat back. Bayern Munich have sat back against Dortmund. Italian football dominated the 90s with the idea of being defensive.

There is nothing smart or glorious about playing suicidal football and losing. I bet you criticise Wenger for being naive.

I'm sorry, but more more bollocks from you. We didn't bring on a 2nd striker, because, why change the shape of a team that is so dominant.

I will reply if you want a proper debate and won't get offended.

You were dominant, but not creating anything. You had control of the game and there was virtually no chance of losing, but if things stayed the same you were not likely to score either. Changing the shape or even bringing on Zabaleta at right back would have changed the dynamics of the game as you said. You would have had a much greater chance of winning the game, but there is a chance you would have left yourself open to a counter.

I believe Pellegrini made the right call. The benefit gained from going for the win was not really worth risking the loss. I repeat I think it was very good management.