Chelsea Thread - 2021/22

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chedinho said:
He knew there was a high chance of injury
hes Winded at the very least.

i was always mindful of being blocked when I played.
it was a regular occurrence.
I found out. Quite accidentally. When one lad tried to do it to me. That if you run straight at them. Watching out of your peripheral vision for the moment they step across and turn their shoulder into you.
and you push your hands out to stop your momentum. One to the chest. The other, palm open to the face.
whilst shouting ‘obstruction ref’ on impact.
You get a free punch and awarded a free kick.
that’s what KDB should have done. And hopefully what he does the next time.

the lad apologised to me for breaking his cheek bone btw.
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I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
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Twat ;)
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
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I agree we won’t agree as he was a dirty twat quite prepared and no doubt happy to take out our best player.
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
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I don't mind Chelsea and you're not a bad poster but IMHO Rudiger meant to do what he did.
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
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On a separate note, what is the reaction amongst Chelsea fans to the story that Christensen declined to play?
 
CPPSC said:
I agree we won’t agree as he was a dirty twat quite prepared and no doubt happy to take out our best player.
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mexico1970 said:
I don't mind Chelsea and you're not a bad poster but IMHO Rudiger meant to do what he did.
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I know you all think that and I have no problems with that view. It's just a case of seeing it differently and despite my earnest efforts, I have accepted I won't ever convince anyone of my viewpoint on the incident, hence why it seems like a pointless conversation :)
 
Gabriel said:
On a separate note, what is the reaction amongst Chelsea fans to the story that Christensen declined to play?
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I don't think any player would willingly refuse to play in a cup final, so something else must be going on with him. It's not the first time he's had to pull out of a game on game day because of a supposed illness. Chelsea fans have not taken kindly to it. He has been roundly criticised and, in some cases, outright abused, because people have convinced themselves his heart isn't in it anymore and that he's trying to avoid an injury ahead of his move to Barcelona.
 
mexico1970 said:
I don't mind Chelsea and you're not a bad poster but IMHO Rudiger meant to do what he did.
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I thought it was a red card, but even if he didn't mean do hurt him he was at least prepared to accept it might happen by doing what he did, so for that reason it was a red card. I think he's just a dirty b4st4rd, and gets away with it more often than not.
 
Vialli98 said:
I don't think any player would willingly refuse to play in a cup final, so something else must be going on with him. It's not the first time he's had to pull out of a game on game day because of a supposed illness. Chelsea fans have not taken kindly to it. He has been roundly criticised and, in some cases, outright abused, because people have convinced themselves his heart isn't in it anymore and that he's trying to avoid an injury ahead of his move to Barcelona.
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Yes, it’s not like refusing to come in in a European tie…

All a bit strange from a player who has been with the club for nearly a decade. Presumably he won’t feature on Sunday and won’t receive the obligatory farewell.
 
Vialli98 said:
I know you all think that and I have no problems with that view. It's just a case of seeing it differently and despite my earnest efforts, I have accepted I won't ever convince anyone of my viewpoint on the incident, hence why it seems like a pointless conversation :)
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It's just your point of view and we all have them, but how would you have felt if Fernandinho had levelled Konte and he was badly injured and went off and missed some of your next season but Fernandinho only got a yellow and then City had gone on to win?
 
Gabriel said:
Yes, it’s not like refusing to come in in a European tie…

All a bit strange from a player who has been with the club for nearly a decade. Presumably he won’t feature on Sunday and won’t receive the obligatory farewell.
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Yeah it's a weird situation, and I hope something comes out to clarify his situation somewhat, otherwise the masses are left to make up their own assumptions and that isn't helping him at all.
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
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You can have the Aguero one or maybe two or three
All the games I’ve seen him. There’s only one player who makes him self destruct.

seemed to start in the semi final. I thought he was off. Everyone did.
 
HypnoticBlue said:
It's just your point of view and we all have them, but how would you have felt if Fernandinho had levelled Konte and he was badly injured and went off and missed some of your next season but Fernandinho only got a yellow and then City had gone on to win?
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It depends on the incident. If it's exactly the same as the Rudiger/KDB one, I doubt my view would change. If Fernandinho took out Kante the way Keita took out Chalobah in the other final, yeah I'd have a problem with that. What it comes down to is the fact that I genuinely believe Rudiger was just trying to stop KDB from advancing up the pitch and that KDB's injury was just really unlucky and purely accidental.

If I believed Fernandinho accidentally took out Kante, there's no chance I'd hold it against him.
 
chedinho said:
You can have the Aguero one or maybe two or three
All the games I’ve seen him. There’s only one player who makes him self destruct.

seemed to start in the semi final. I thought he was off. Everyone did.
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Yeah a couple of very spicy moments between Aguero and David Luiz. The semifinal one was the worst one he did probably. I still really like him though haha :)
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm hesitant to keep discussing this because I'm fully aware that nobody on this forum will ever agree with me on this and it's been debated to death in last season's Chelsea thread and various points in this thread too and each time it ended with people either calling me names or politely agreeing to disagree.

My view is that Rudiger was trying to cynically foul KDB by body checking him worthy of no more than a yellow card. Those kinds of cynical fouls happen in almost every game. He was not trying to hurt him and KDB's subsequent injury was purely accidental. Nothing close to Aguero vs David Luiz levels of assault.
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I agree. Rudiger definitely didn’t mean to do what ended up being the outcome. He tried to obstruct him by body checking him. The injury sustained was was an unfortunate incidental outcome.
 
Just need a Dennis Wise fronted consortium to save them now. I hear he is on his way in a Taxi.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I agree. Rudiger definitely didn’t mean to do what ended up being the outcome. He tried to obstruct him by body checking him. The injury sustained was was an unfortunate incidental outcome.
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That's true of plenty of red card challenges though. I don't think most players are trying to injure their opponents, but if they do through recklessness, especially if they make no attempt to play the ball, then they should be sent off.

If you mis-time a tackle and break someone's ankle you'll be sent off, regardless of intent. Rüdiger messed up a bodycheck and broke De Bruyne's face, it's exactly the same situation
 
mexico1970 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Chelsea takeover: Government ministers fear sale of club to Todd Boehly consortium could 'fall apart'

Ministers are worried a £4.25bn deal to buy Chelsea may be at risk of "falling apart" due to a lack of consensus with the club over the proceeds of any sale, the BBC has learned.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Best possible outcome for Chelsea is that somehow the deal falls apart, the special licence is extended, the war and sanctions end and Abramovich gets to cling onto the club.

Any American owners will send them into the same dead-end that United and Arsenal find themselves in and that the horrible cult will also find themselves in once the psychopath leaves
 
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