City’s New Kits

[PabloZabeleta]

There’s no record of St Marks having a badge. The cross was Gorton AFC’s.

But it’s not a Maltese Cross, it’s a Cross Pattée.

We're not descended from any Gorton AFC, who are you referring to?

We are descended from Saint Mark's (West Gorton) FC, who wore the aforementioned crest emblasened on their kits

 

[mat]

Can anybody answer this. Just a random kit question. What shirt did city wear away to sheffield wednesday on jan 1st 1990? Was the the maroon/white candy stripe or was it the all maroon shirt

All Maroon. I remember because of David Fucking Hurst.

 

[wolfie1988]

 

[plattlanebenches]

Looks like the Abu Dhabi golf clubhouse

 

[Half time draw tickets]

We're not descended from any Gorton AFC, who are you referring to?

We are descended from Saint Mark's (West Gorton) FC, who wore the aforementioned crest emblasened on their kits

 

[Deleted member 77198]

We're not descended from any Gorton AFC, who are you referring to?

We are descended from Saint Mark's (West Gorton) FC, who wore the aforementioned crest emblasened on their kits

We aren’t descended from anyone. Manchester City Football Club were a new club formed on 16th April 1894. Despite some people being involved in St Marks, Gorton and Ardwick, in the formation of City, City do not have a forerunner. Ardwick were still a club after that City formation date and even played two games after we’d formed.

The timeline goes:

St Marks … founding date unknown-1884
Gorton … 1884-1887
Ardwick … 1887-1894
…that line ended when Ardwick folded

St Mark’s are said to have worn black and red halves (but there has never been a team photo of St Marks found and I think there’s only one mention of their kit anywhere and no other mentions of their kit colours), there is no record of a badge for that club.

This is Gorton AFC (not St Marks):


And Ardwick AFC:


‘On 18th April 1894 Ardwick lost 2-0 to Sheffield United at Hyde Road before a poor attendance of 200 spectators in a match held “to help the Ardwick Committee meet some of their heavy financial liabilities.” Ardwick’s last match was a scoreless draw away against Stockport County on 28th April 1894’.

 

[HelloCity]

We aren’t descended from anyone. Manchester City Football Club were a new club formed on 16th April 1894. Despite some people being involved in St Marks, Gorton and Ardwick, in the formation of City, City do not have a forerunner. Ardwick were still a club after that City formation date and even played two games after we’d formed.

The timeline goes:

St Marks … founding date unknown-1884
Gorton … 1884-1887
Ardwick … 1887-1894
…that line ended when Ardwick folded

St Mark’s are said to have worn black and red halves (but there has never been a team photo of St Marks found and I think there’s only one mention of their kit anywhere and no other mentions of their kit colours), there is no record of a badge for that club.

This is Gorton AFC (not St Marks):
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And Ardwick AFC:
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‘On 18th April 1894 Ardwick lost 2-0 to Sheffield United at Hyde Road before a poor attendance of 200 spectators in a match held “to help the Ardwick Committee meet some of their heavy financial liabilities.” Ardwick’s last match was a scoreless draw away against Stockport County on 28th April 1894’.

Do you agree with this version events @Gary James?

;)

 

[Gary James]

Do you agree with this version events @Gary James?

;)

Basically yes. I’d quibble about some minor details (for example should we regard MCFC’s formation date as 12 April 1894 when the meeting was held and documentation signed or 16 April when Companies House approved/recorded it) and would always argue that without Ardwick and the earlier clubs there’d be no MCFC. BUT MCFC was definitely a new club.

People rightly get upset that MUFC record their formation as 1878 even though MUFC wasn’t founded until 1902 and they believe City should follow suit but that would be wrong. Utd are the club who should change their date not City.

City do, rightly, refer to St Mark’s, Gorton & Ardwick etc with the cross pattee featuring around the stadium and in light shows etc. but MCFC is not the same club or company as Ardwick, Gorton or St Mark’s. Those clubs are important in our story and some individuals were involved from 1880s through to 1940s in the various predecessors and MCFC.

I‘ve written a lot on this over the years and posted stuff on my website:

The Founding Of Manchester City

On April 12 1894 a meeting was held to formally establish Manchester City AFC. Dates and the story around the establishment of the club often get incorrectly recorded, so here for subscribers is the story of the demise of Ardwick and establishment of Manchester City with all the key dates…...

gjfootballarchive.com

The Origins of Manchester City: Facts Not Fiction

Manchester City’s birth as City in April 1894 was a major landmark moment and is rightly celebrated today on the club’s badge. But, this came after over 14 years of development as a com…

gjfootballarchive.com

 

[bobbykendazzler68]

Does anyone know anywhere that do reproduced versions of the 94 umbro home shirt? Not the score draw ones

 

[hateutd]

Does anyone know anywhere that do reproduced versions of the 94 umbro home shirt? Not the score draw ones

Not the dhgate one also...