City and United's squad cost compared.

[coulsonblue]

We've spent roughly, £380million since the takeover.

£487.4million ferguson has spent on players in total at United and their current squad cost £240million. But how much of that is actually a fair assumption of their cost in today's market?

What is marked, is that since the summer of 1998, he has regularly spent £40million plus each year, reaching £50/60million some summers.

Before then, spends of £10million were common place. This is down to lower market rates, and the effect of inflation. (eg. Roy Keane was a British transfer record £3.75million).

Baring in mind this sharp jump in transfer fees, the amounts paid for players earlier on in the 1990's would have been much higher than they were, in the 2000's market.

Using historic UK inflation data, the present cost of United's record transfers would be:

Roy Keane, £3.75m, today: £5.96m
Andy Cole, £7m, today: £10.5m
Jaap Stam, £10.75, today: £14.8m
Dwight Yorke, £12.6m, today: £17.3m
RvN, £19m, today: £24.5m
Veron, £28.1m, today: £36.25m
Ferdinand, £29.1m, today: £36.9m

Of course this only accounts for inflation and not for the change in the market.

For example, the world transfer record in 2001, of £40million for Zidane, is today £80m for Ronaldo. Account for this and the price of Rio Ferdinand becomes £66million, Veron £64.35million.

Of course this is slightly unfair, as the £80million Real paid for Ronaldo was a one-off. However, a price somewhere in between the two values of £36.9million and £66million would be the present value of Rio Ferdinand aged 22 in 2011, say £50million.

Go further back to the signing of Andy Cole for £7million. Taking into account the change in the world record, then Andy Cole would cost £33.8million in today's market. A fair assumption.

Roy Keane in todays market taking into account the inflation and market change(in terms of world transfer record), would cost £21.5million. Again a fair value, especially for a player who lead United to success as the main player as captain.

The cost of players accelerated greatly during United's years of success, not just as a result of the expansion of the Premier League but also in Europe. The fact that United managed to buy from "earnings" was a result of being the team to win at exactly the right time, when the money started coming. (TV, sponsorships, asia).

Squad cost:(prices set to 2010)

De Gea: £18.9m
Evra : £5.5m, £6.4m
Jones: £16.5m
Ferdinand: £29.1m, £36.9m
Anderson & Nani: £30m combined, £32.5m
Berbatov: £30.75m, £32m
Rooney: £27m, £32.3m
Smalling: £10m
Park: £4m, £4.7m
Hernandez: £8m
Vidic: £7m, £8.2m
Carrick: £18.6m, £21m
Young: £17m
Silva twins: £5.5m, £6m
Valencia: £16m, £16.7m
Lindegaard: £3.5m

Total: £270.6m

City:(prices set to 2010)
Bridge: £10m, £10.5m
Kompany: £6m, £6.2m
Zabaleta: £6.45m, £6.6m
Lescott: £24m, £25.1m
Milner: £24m
Dzeko: £27m
Johnson: £7m
Kolarov: £16m
Savic: £6m
Aguero: £38m
Barry: £12m, £12.6m
Nasri: £25m
Silva: £24m
Clichy: £7m
Hart: £600,000, £677,000
Kolo Toure: £16m, £16.6m
Tevez: £25.5m, £26.7m
De Jong: £18m, £18.8m
Yaya Toure: £24m
Balotelli: £24m

Total: £345.7m

On the face of it, our squad costs £75.1million more.

Despite the fact, our squad is actually better than United's! This difference can be made up.

If we use the "market" adjusted figures for Rooney, this adds £19.1m, Ferdinand £29.1, Vidic £4.8m, Evra £4.2m, Carrick £11.9m, Park £2.7m, Anderson & Nani £19.1m = £90.9m

Therefore United total cost = £361.5m

£15.8 MORE than City's.

Conclusive proof, were it needed.

 

[cheddar404]

Wow! That's some serious time you have on your hands! Good work though and interesting reading.

 

[baldmosher]

Yeah, but we spent it all in one go, which is apparently tantamount to cheating in Fantasy Manager, which means you're wrong

 

[Comrade Buka]

£487.4million ferguson has spent on players in total at United.

How much has he sold for total?

 

[Longsight-memories]

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/manchester-city-transfers.html 491 net!

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/manchester-united-transfers.html 185 net? very iffy
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/chelsea-transfers.html chelsea 500+ net!!!!!!

 

[jacko74]

Interesting stuff. I'm suprised that the price difference between actual fees and market adjusted fees isn't greater to be honest, it certainly feels more like fees have trebled at least in the last 10 years.

 

[Longsight-memories]

So they paid 9 million for tevez on loan???

 

[baldmosher]

Interesting stuff. I'm suprised that the price difference between actual fees and market adjusted fees isn't greater to be honest, it certainly feels more like fees have trebled at least in the last 10 years.

If you look at the price of top players: Veron for £28m, Ronaldo for £80m, and Aguero for £34m means the market is simply highly volatile. It's rocketed twice in recent memory, once after the Prem money (Cantona for £2m anyone?) and again after the UCL money (Cole for £7m anyone?)

Even ADUG weren't daft enough to follow Real's lead this time round (although they did try it on with Kaka - so actually, maybe Real were daft enough to follow our lead), and nobody else can afford to do it. Real raised the bar and we just knocked it off on our way around the side.

 

[Balti]

lets face it the nett figures are skewed because until very recently we never sold anyone at a profit and usually sold at a bloomin' huge loss

in fact it is still happening :-(

our transfer policy and dealings were truly shocking sometimes

once we finally sort that out our figures will look more balanced

 

[coulsonblue]

So they paid 9 million for tevez on loan???

£5million per season. so £10m. 10/9 same difference.

I personally don't buy the whole £47million Tevez thing. It was £25.5m as quoted imo.