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jrb said:
City could change the 1/19th?

City will look at every option to claw back money.


The club can take the risk as a large percentage of ticket exchange tickets do sell. Not all. All of my tickets that I have listed on a few occasions have always sold. I stand in block 115, SSL1. It will be harder for the club next season to shift those ticket Exchange tickets as an extra 8000 seats go on sale. And another 4000 F/G season tickets. The club might eventually revise the 1/19th offer?
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I hope not and I think reducing the 1/19th would be counter-productive to the club's stated aim of bums on seats. They can't have their cake and eat it by reducing the 1/19th whilst imposing minimum no. of games to be attended.
 
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jrb said:
City will have a a while to try and figure a way around the new ticket selling rules, as the plans still have to go through the House of Commons. Hopefully it won’t take years?

Reselling tickets to live events for a profit is to be banned by the government.

Ministers will announce the plan on Wednesday in a bid to tackle touts and resale sites, which often offer music, theatre, comedy and sport tickets at well above face value.

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Reselling gig and other tickets above face value to be banned by government

Ministers say they will tackle sites offering music, theatre and sport tickets at above face value.
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However, proposed new rules due to be announced by the government on Wednesday are intended to change that by making it illegal to resell tickets for live events above their original cost.

What are the new rules?​

The Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) is expected to officially announce on Wednesday that:

  • Ticket resale above face value will be illegal. Tickets can only be sold for their face value plus unavoidable fees including service charges
  • Service charges added by resale platforms will be capped, to prevent the new price limit being undermined
  • Resale platforms will have a legal duty to monitor and enforce compliance with the new price cap
  • Individuals will be banned from reselling more tickets than they were entitled to buy in the initial ticket sale
  • For example, if consumers were limited to purchasing four tickets each, only four can be resold
It's not yet clear when the rules will come into effect, as the plans still have to go through the House of Commons. It's thought the government will introduce primary legislation when Parliamentary time allows.

The new rules will not just apply to concerts but also sport, theatre, comedy and other types of live entertainment.

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What are the planned new ticketing laws, and how much could they save fans?

A proposed law will make it illegal to resell tickets for events such as concerts above face value.
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Here’s something that could easily be applied to football clubs:

Football clubs may only sell tickets for their matches on their official club ticketing sites.

That would sort part of the fucking mess of ticketing out.
 
Archaic laws, harking back to the hooligan era, but still effecting football fans today and into the future.

Only clubs, or organisers, are able to resell tickets on their own platforms if, for instance, season ticket holders are unable to attend.

The Act was designed to cover anti-social behaviour, and with regard to football was intended to reduce the risk of violence and disorder at matches.
 
HelloCity said:
wtf

For example, more than 18,000 tickets were advertised for Arsenal v Nottingham Forest alone - nearly a third of the Emirates' capacity.
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I know. And, for some games, prices ranged from £55 to £14,962…
I’d love to know how much a club gets if a ticket sells for £15k.
It also condemns the lie, told by City and all the other thieving bastard clubs, that they ‘have to know who’s in the ground”.

Todd Boely is a director and investor on one of the unauthorised sites, so we know how they get Chelsea tickets. Hopefully their fans twig it as well.
 
jrb said:
Archaic laws, harking back to the hooligan era, but still effecting football fans today and into the future.

Only clubs, or organisers, are able to resell tickets on their own platforms if, for instance, season ticket holders are unable to attend.

The Act was designed to cover anti-social behaviour, and with regard to football was intended to reduce the risk of violence and disorder at matches.
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Archaic or not, if that law was complied with, the touting sites would be done, surely?
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Archaic or not, if that law was complied with, the touting sites would be done, surely?
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The ones breaking the law are not in the UK.

I said this morning it won't affect football as it is already illegal to do so.

Dynamic Pricing is allowed with 24hrs notice, so presale Wed, set prices Thurs, main sale Fri at whatever they want.

Whatever City sell a ticket ticket at is the face value, or a partner on their behalf, so they can charge what they want and change prices if they want.

Nothing will change bar people not understanding.
 
Corky said:
The ones breaking the law are not in the UK.

I said this morning it won't affect football as it is already illegal to do so.

Dynamic Pricing is allowed with 24hrs notice, so presale Wed, set prices Thurs, main sale Fri at whatever they want.

Whatever City sell a ticket ticket at is the face value, or a partner on their behalf, so they can charge what they want and change prices if they want.

Nothing will change bar people not understanding.
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Which is all well and good but where do they get rows and rows of tickets from? That’s not Billy No Mates putting his ticket up to make a bit of cash, that’s collusion.
The clubs could nip this in the bud but they don’t seem to want to and it can only be related to lots of additional spending likely by a ‘tourist’ than people like me who barely give the club anything other than my season ticket money!
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Which is all well and good but where do they get rows and rows of tickets from? That’s not Billy No Mates putting his ticket up to make a bit of cash, that’s collusion.
The clubs could nip this in the bud but they don’t seem to want to and it can only be related to lots of additional spending likely by a ‘tourist’ than people like me who barely give the club anything other than my season ticket money!
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They will say all this "in person" rule etc is to help tackle that.

They claim digital ticketing is to clamp down on touting.

If someone has a problem getting in on an ticket not from an authorised seller, and they queue up at the Portakabin for help they all told to fuck off, hard luck, not our problem, get out the queue. There isn't much collusion when that happens.

I know the authorised sellers are seen as a problem by fans, but not by the law. The clubs will have been consulted on before any new law too, and they are part of a big tourist industry.
mexico1970 said:
Well it bloody well should do.
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Not according to the law.

From day one Prices and Kick-Off times would not come under the regulator, but they are already getting blamed after 19 days and most staff not in place.
 
Corky said:
They will say all this "in person" rule etc is to help tackle that.

They claim digital ticketing is to clamp down on touting.

If someone has a problem getting in on an ticket not from an authorised seller, and they queue up at the Portakabin for help they all told to fuck off, hard luck, not our problem, get out the queue. There isn't much collusion when that happens.

I know the authorised sellers are seen as a problem by fans, but not by the law. The clubs will have been consulted on before any new law too, and they are part of a big tourist industry.

Not according to the law.

From day one Prices and Kick-Off times would not come under the regulator, but they are already getting blamed after 19 days and most staff not in place.
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Greasy fuckers can't help themselves, the remit for this junket quango is wrong.
 
They'll find a way round anything anyway, even if it did affect the way football clubs are currently operating.

Under the Sunday Observance Act, it was against the law to charge an admission fee to watch a sporting event on a Sunday. Sports like cricket and Rugby League got round that by making it compulsory to be in possession of a programme to enter the ground. Programmes were luckily for sale at the turnstiles for a very similar price as admission was on other days. Before the law was finally repealed, sports like motor racing weren't even bothering with tricks like that. They just charged to get into Grand Prix's and completely ignored the law, which nobody seemed particularly bothered about.
 
City Raider said:
So its ok that footy fans are the only ones in entertainment industry getting ripped off
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There are already laws to protect football fans but they can't be enforced as many of the touts (official and unofficial) are based outside the UK. - And also because the clubs and PL don't give a shit.
As for the regulator: Initial comments suggest there is nothing in the IFR's remit that will address many of the complaints put forward by match-going fans.
 
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