City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Re: City & FFP (continued)

jrb said:
momo88 said:
jrb said:
You could, but if you don't tell them what's happening, as there's nothing outside London and the M25 to speak of, then they won't ever learn or know the truth.

I had this very same problem on SSC regarding City and FFPR. Denial or ignorance, or both. However, overtime and after many posts, those who questioned Sheikh Mansour, City, and me, now have an insight into what's going on at City and in the wider community. Yes some still can't see past Sheikh Mansour, his billions, buying success, corrupting football, and not doing things the right way.(arf!) But many now see and understand the bigger picture of what Sheikh Mansour is doing for the club and the wider community as a whole. :-)

its a mix of all when you have most football journo (and medias) spreading bullshits and lies instead of facts (city ruining football, money)

the nature of football fans (not all but big proportion) who are blinded by hatred and jealousy towards other's success

so it gives you a clear image of the deluded arse fans

some people just wishing City to crumble why ? i don't know !

but give it 5 years and things will change

Oh my!

Can you image what the training academy and the Etihad stadium are going to look like in 5 years time. As for the Collar Site and Etihad Campus around the stadium, who knows? But one thing is for sure, it's going to look mind blowing, whatever's planned and built.

As for City's revenues. Bye, bye Arsenal. And by the time the leisure destination of national and international significance is built, and the Etihad Campus is fully operational, bye, bye United.

It's just that United, Arsenal, etc, fans, just can't see it and don't get it. The vast majority of them haven't got a f***ing(sorry for swearing) clue what's being built and being planned. Oh my word, are they in for a shock! :-)

Why did I immediately think of the Death Star in Star Wars when I read that.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

bobbyowenquiff said:
Arsenal represent everything that is bad in football. A club that has ripped off its own supporters for years, has hardly invested anything in its local community and exists only to put more money into the back pockets of its wealthy board members. I had lots of respect for the old Arsenal. They had great supporters rooted in North London. Their new breed of fans are truly sickening and amongst the most ignorant in the country. The business model at Arsenal, which essentially revolves around its board taking money out of the club and investing it abroad, is never challenged by our media. The won the FA Cup with one less English player (one) than we won the league with but we were painted as the bad guys. These days I despise Arsenal almost as much as the rags.

Bravo. +1. I feel exactly the same way.
 
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I expect this has been done, but it's only just crossed my mind.......

With Fernando deal reportedly close to being announced, I'm reading that there are add-ons as per usual

So how does that work with the 60m Euro cap? Do they value the basic deal.......in which case City have a loophole.....structure every deal with add-ons, or is the whole potential package taken into account even if it will never be realised. Surely not

I'm guessing the cap would be based on the base amount payable.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Marvin said:
I expect this has been done, but it's only just crossed my mind.......

With Fernando deal reportedly close to being announced, I'm reading that there are add-ons as per usual

So how does that work with the 60m Euro cap? Do they value the basic deal.......in which case City have a loophole.....structure every deal with add-ons, or is the whole potential package taken into account even if it will never be realised. Surely not

I'm guessing the cap would be based on the base amount payable.


It has to be surely.

The add-ons are conditional upon the happening of certain events which might not happen. They can't be included in the cap.
 
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CITYBOY1000 said:
Marvin said:
I expect this has been done, but it's only just crossed my mind.......

With Fernando deal reportedly close to being announced, I'm reading that there are add-ons as per usual

So how does that work with the 60m Euro cap? Do they value the basic deal.......in which case City have a loophole.....structure every deal with add-ons, or is the whole potential package taken into account even if it will never be realised. Surely not

I'm guessing the cap would be based on the base amount payable.


It has to be surely.

The add-ons are conditional upon the happening of certain events which might not happen. They can't be included in the cap.
If so then City will be looking to structure every deal we do in this window in this fashion. Give the seller club some easily attainable add-ons, at a slightly higher overall value, and everyone is happy
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Marvin said:
I expect this has been done, but it's only just crossed my mind.......

With Fernando deal reportedly close to being announced, I'm reading that there are add-ons as per usual

So how does that work with the 60m Euro cap? Do they value the basic deal.......in which case City have a loophole.....structure every deal with add-ons, or is the whole potential package taken into account even if it will never be realised. Surely not

I'm guessing the cap would be based on the base amount payable.

It will be based on the amount paid over the time period - i.e. now till 1st July 2015.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

BlueAnorak said:
Marvin said:
I expect this has been done, but it's only just crossed my mind.......

With Fernando deal reportedly close to being announced, I'm reading that there are add-ons as per usual

So how does that work with the 60m Euro cap? Do they value the basic deal.......in which case City have a loophole.....structure every deal with add-ons, or is the whole potential package taken into account even if it will never be realised. Surely not

I'm guessing the cap would be based on the base amount payable.

It will be based on the amount paid over the time period - i.e. now till 1st July 2015.
In that case there's no cap at all. Just pay by instalments - many deals are done that way
 
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the tarquins and the rags supporters are the biggest mugs in football , their owners shaft them relentlessly every season , and they are clinging onto the FFP challenging us , because their football teams dont have the ability or quality to do so , and they never will. The investment from our owners has been necessary to fast track the club to be the best in europe , but within 5 years we will be self sufficient , producing home grown world class stars , and actually making a profit . Their envy and jealousy is comforting , the pain the tarquins and the rags customers will experience over the next decade will be just reward in itself .
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

Marvin said:
BlueAnorak said:
Marvin said:
I expect this has been done, but it's only just crossed my mind.......

With Fernando deal reportedly close to being announced, I'm reading that there are add-ons as per usual

So how does that work with the 60m Euro cap? Do they value the basic deal.......in which case City have a loophole.....structure every deal with add-ons, or is the whole potential package taken into account even if it will never be realised. Surely not

I'm guessing the cap would be based on the base amount payable.

It will be based on the amount paid over the time period - i.e. now till 1st July 2015.
In that case there's no cap at all. Just pay by instalments - many deals are done that way

Not really because on that basis instalments from previous years would come into this year - making it a total unknown for us.
 

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