City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

The trouble is that City are under the microscope and the vast majority of observers are assuming every move is a dodgy one.

UEFA say 'make more money if you want to spend more' - so City set about improving their commercial activities, using their recent success and massively improved exposure. The naysayers cry 'dodgy deals'.

United and Liverpool have American owners and secure American sponsors, and it's 'synergy'.
City secure a sponsorship from an Abu Dhabi airline and it's 'collusion'.


UEFA say 'operate smarter' - so City restructure their business and optimise things, admittedly for City's benefit. The naysayers cry 'FFP dodging'

United find themselves losing their greatest manager, and endure a truly awful season - then secure a record breaking deal with Adidas and Chevrolet, and the world applauds 'the strength of their brand'.

City see the potential for an improved deal with Nike (which still won't match United's) and the naysayers call it 'inflated'.

FFP forces clubs to be creative. It forces them to work their finances with FFP in mind. Can it really be a surprise that accounts are tailored to meet FFP?
Is there a single club deemed to be on UEFA's radar not doing the same?

There's not a single club in Europe who have invested as much in infrastructure as City have in the last 10 years. Something UEFA claim is a great thing for the good of football. But do they offer incentives for clubs to do this? no. The best they offer is an exemption. Nice of them.

As for the media hacks. We're an easy story. We have been for the last 5 years.
 
Sigh said:
FanchesterCity said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Why would they fail?
It was an abstract example of any club in a position where they could make the money back but the fee exceeded ffp.
Nice try. Manchester Abstract F.C. it is then.

The opening line is clear for anybody with a grasp of English.
'A club' - that's any club.
'For instance, say' - that's another indication of an example.

It's pretty clearly an example and the entire post was about how a sponsor might one day be far more involved in the purchase.
There's no 'try' in any of that. It's a discussion, a posed question on ways a club might fund large transfers in the future.
 
Now although I have introduced this concept in a column about Manchester City's FFP compliance, it must be underlined that there is absolutely nothing to suggest that City have used the offshore mechanism above. This goes way beyond paying a few directors or even dozens of football-analytics staff through off-balance-sheet entities.


So why the phuck did you not pick a club who Kook & run two different sets of books in the Cayman isles ?

matt.scott@insideworldfootball.com.
 
Victoria-bahs said:
Now although I have introduced this concept in a column about Manchester City's FFP compliance, it must be underlined that there is absolutely nothing to suggest that City have used the offshore mechanism above. This goes way beyond paying a few directors or even dozens of football-analytics staff through off-balance-sheet entities.


So why the phuck did you not pick a club who Kook & run two different sets of books in the Cayman isles ?

matt.scott@insideworldfootball.com.

That's the second time a journo's done that in the last week or so... 'offshore accounts' diatribe, then say 'not suggesting City do this'.
So either he's stolen this from the other journo, or they are both morons.

It's not journalism, it's rumour mongering.
 
These articles are dangerous and City needs to do something about them. Anyone who scratches the surface of them can clearly see they are bullshit but not everyone is going to do that and will take them as gospel which just continues the snowballing of the "City are cheating FFP" myth. Get tough on these hacks City ffs.
 
FanchesterCity said:
chicagoblues said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Why would they fail?
Who is he referring to as "they" ? smells funny .

'They' is a term used for an abstract club... which is what I said when I said 'A club', then gave City as an example.
People's paranoia in this place is getting worse.
Paranoia ?
Let me rephrase according to your context .
""City can't pay it because (abstract club ) will fail FFP.""?

WOW! that shit is deep man. What every you are smoking must be really good.
 
chicagoblues said:
FanchesterCity said:
chicagoblues said:
Who is he referring to as "they" ? smells funny .

'They' is a term used for an abstract club... which is what I said when I said 'A club', then gave City as an example.
People's paranoia in this place is getting worse.
Paranoia ?
Let me rephrase according to your context .
""City can't pay it because (abstract club ) will fail FFP.""?

WOW! that shit is deep man. What every you are smoking must be really good.

Use the full context, not selected parts of a sentence. That's as bad as the hacks are doing.
 
RandomJ said:
These articles are dangerous and City needs to do something about them. Anyone who scratches the surface of them can clearly see they are bullshit but not everyone is going to do that and will take them as gospel which just continues the snowballing of the "City are cheating FFP" myth. Get tough on these hacks City ffs.

They are, but they are very difficult to stop.
The law's been changed recently on defamation, and it makes it particularly difficult to stop this 'suggestive' stuff.
 
Reus to Real for 20m. So Dortmund was held up as the model for what poorer clubs can achieve without "financial doping", and it has collapsed. They are in relegation form and losing one of their final star players for about a third of his market rate.

FFP working as planned. If the court can't see that FFP is an absolute scam of the highest order, then they are sanctioning an eternal oligopoly. As we said 4 years ago, our model is the only way a smaller club can survive against the big fish in Europe.
 
FanchesterCity said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
FanchesterCity said:
How long will it be before a club buy a player where most of the sponsors put up the cash (indirectly)...

For instance, say City wanted to buy Messi (not that it will happen)... but his price tag is 120m (say). City can't pay it because they'll fail FFP
Why would they fail?
It was an abstract example of any club in a position where they could make the money back but the fee exceeded ffp.

I get more and more concerned with your constant "puts downs" of my Club.
 

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