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fbloke said:
You mean the music referred to here by Martin Samuel? ;)
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City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)
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You mean the music referred to here by Martin Samuel? ;)
BoyBlue_1985
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Maybe even this one
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QDIWPe2JVg[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QDIWPe2JVg[/youtube]
JoeMercer'sWay
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they should use this crowd favourite :D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqn9nY43W4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqn9nY43W4[/youtube]
BoyBlue_1985
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqqK5etH7s0[/youtube]
This definitely
This definitely
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Can we all just chill out for a bit? Reading sports journalists views on accounting practices is like getting Kim Kardassian's views on Einstein's Theory of Relativity. It is very clear they, in almost all cases, have no idea what they're on about.
We may be found guilty of some minor breach of FFPR but you can take it UEFA will be very careful with any punishment as anything bar a slap on the wrist without an acknowledgement of the fact we are moving in the right direction will bring a sh1tstorm upon them they haven't had to face since Bosman.
I am no expert on European Law but I know enough to see that any aggressive challenge to the FFPR brought to European Court of Justice has a very real chance of succeeding on grounds of Competition Law, restraint of trade, free movement of capital, free movement of workers and legitimate expectations. UEFA must know this as well so they will be very, very careful to avoid bringing their house of cards down.
We may be found guilty of some minor breach of FFPR but you can take it UEFA will be very careful with any punishment as anything bar a slap on the wrist without an acknowledgement of the fact we are moving in the right direction will bring a sh1tstorm upon them they haven't had to face since Bosman.
I am no expert on European Law but I know enough to see that any aggressive challenge to the FFPR brought to European Court of Justice has a very real chance of succeeding on grounds of Competition Law, restraint of trade, free movement of capital, free movement of workers and legitimate expectations. UEFA must know this as well so they will be very, very careful to avoid bringing their house of cards down.
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kramer said:kippaxking79 said:This was asked on Talksport the other night, Adrian Durham didn't know so they got clarification. The reporter and back with this!aguero93:20 said:Nope, if Arsenal finish fifth, they qualify for EL through the league and Hull qualify for EL through the cup, If Arsenal finish top 4, they qualify for CL and Hull through the cup for EL, we've already done this to death on here.
If arsenal finish 5th and WIN the fa cup 7th place in the league opens up to a Europa league spot.
That's correct this is because the Cup Winners (CW) spot is an auto group entry 5th (N5) is Play-Off (pre group) 6th (N6) is Qualifier 3 (pre-play-off) So Arse would get the CW and their league place would go down one league place
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/accesslist/
There was a discussion on the Utd thread in General Forum about this and it seems that if Arsenal finish 5th, they go into Europa league based on league position and their FA Cup win (should it happen) would go to the FA Cup final losers, not to 7th place in the league.
Edit: Page 36 of the thread if you're interested.
Edit2: Actually I'm now not sure. The only source seems to be Talksport and so far it seems, if Arsenal finish 5th and win the cup, it opens up 7th place, but if Arsenal finish 4th and win the cup, the cup losers get the place. Christ, can't UEFA make anything simple.
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The Daily Telegraph is indeed the best laxative in the world - one little dose and it works on the entire population of a big city! Take a stride back and consider.
UEFA try and maintain the retain and transfer system in court when all legal opinion tells them they haven't a chance of winning. They lose and are warned football is not a special case. They try to limit the number of foreigners who can be in a club squad. They're told not even to bother going to court because it's clearly contrary to European law. They change the rules to insist on a quota of "home grown" players (as part of the club's "organic"growth?) and that hasn't a chance of standing up to a challenge. Now the masterminds at UEFA are trying to lay down rules for club finance, which is a bit difficult when they want to impose limits on shareholders' investment and the law says any agreement between competing parties to limit investment is prohibited. They're keeping a careful eye on sponsorship deals to prevent "financial doping" by owners, but they can't quite get hold of what a related parties deal is, preferring a definition of their own to the one in universal use in the world of commerce. There's more than a slight problem in understanding who is charged with the responsibility of deciding on the propriety of such deals. Not a great record of meddling.
In the sky blue corner, on the other hand, we have Sheikh Mansour, Etihad, Etisalat etc etc who have a proven (almost unrivalled) record of investment, growth and success.
And yet City fans blush, their heads sink into their shoulders and they panic at accusations of "cheating", "financial doping" from clubs who used investment from shareholders to buy trophies and then expanded their stadium and developed other revenue streams to perpetuate the success which they now claim is "fair", "paid for with their own money" and other such nonsense. And they are all massively in debt, but that isn't to be mentioned.
The European court will not be interested in taking action against a club in such robustly strong financial health, especially when the authorities taking the action are actually competing parties who entrusted the "rules" on which such action is based to other competing parties (as Platini's disarmingly honest comment to Martin Samuel - "it's what the clubs want" - actually signifies"). I think the road is leading to a very destructive suit against a cartel. Members of cartels can be fined up to 10% of their annual, world wide turnover.
I hope this is broken into nice easy chunks/paragraphs because some need to calm down. We have nothing to fear.
UEFA try and maintain the retain and transfer system in court when all legal opinion tells them they haven't a chance of winning. They lose and are warned football is not a special case. They try to limit the number of foreigners who can be in a club squad. They're told not even to bother going to court because it's clearly contrary to European law. They change the rules to insist on a quota of "home grown" players (as part of the club's "organic"growth?) and that hasn't a chance of standing up to a challenge. Now the masterminds at UEFA are trying to lay down rules for club finance, which is a bit difficult when they want to impose limits on shareholders' investment and the law says any agreement between competing parties to limit investment is prohibited. They're keeping a careful eye on sponsorship deals to prevent "financial doping" by owners, but they can't quite get hold of what a related parties deal is, preferring a definition of their own to the one in universal use in the world of commerce. There's more than a slight problem in understanding who is charged with the responsibility of deciding on the propriety of such deals. Not a great record of meddling.
In the sky blue corner, on the other hand, we have Sheikh Mansour, Etihad, Etisalat etc etc who have a proven (almost unrivalled) record of investment, growth and success.
And yet City fans blush, their heads sink into their shoulders and they panic at accusations of "cheating", "financial doping" from clubs who used investment from shareholders to buy trophies and then expanded their stadium and developed other revenue streams to perpetuate the success which they now claim is "fair", "paid for with their own money" and other such nonsense. And they are all massively in debt, but that isn't to be mentioned.
The European court will not be interested in taking action against a club in such robustly strong financial health, especially when the authorities taking the action are actually competing parties who entrusted the "rules" on which such action is based to other competing parties (as Platini's disarmingly honest comment to Martin Samuel - "it's what the clubs want" - actually signifies"). I think the road is leading to a very destructive suit against a cartel. Members of cartels can be fined up to 10% of their annual, world wide turnover.
I hope this is broken into nice easy chunks/paragraphs because some need to calm down. We have nothing to fear.
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Transfer banstony said:Have we been banned yet ?
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And we're not allowed to play FIFA.SWP's back said:Transfer banstony said:Have we been banned yet ?
SWP's back said:Transfer banstony said:Have we been banned yet ?
Will it be May before we here if we have passed or failed and any possible sanctions.