City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[Gordyola]

Would be terrible if the PL actually managed to implement this. I mean, Etihad having all that money and not being able to sponsor City is ridiculous. And Aramco or other Saudi firms being in a similar boat and not being able to sponsor Newcastle.

The PL has got us both over a barrel, absolutely no way around this. Two coutries with such close political and military ties, both unable to invest anything in their own club. Won't someone think of a solution.

Etihad are not a related party and this has been accepted by UEFA City's auditors and CAS Unfortunately the idiots in the media fail to understand We have a couple of related parties and City agreed that the level of support wouldn't increase again accepted by UEFA

 

[domalino]

Nice one.

It's the ones who are purposely lying that annoy me most. Panja and whatsapp group...
They know what the score is and just lie and lie.

The thing is they don't think they're purposefully lying.

To them, what they know about City and the UAE supersedes anything CAS or UEFA or anyone else rules.

It doesn't matter if factually City are owned by Sheikh Mansour, it doesn't matter if factually Etihad was ruled non-related and it doesn't matter if CAS explicitly stated sponsorships were not inflated.

Because they *know* what's true. So they write articles as if what they think is true is factual.

There's a touch of the religious zealot to it. When UEFA made their decision you had journalists who've spent the past 20 years mocking and criticising the corruption and incompetence of UEFA suddenly treating them as unimpeachable and getting very angry on podcasts that City would even appeal the decision despite it obviously being their right.

Yves Leterme got loads of mentions from a certain group of journalists in opinion pieces and twitter as if just mentioning he was a former Belgian Prime Minister (no mentions of his corruption scandals) was enough to say how stupid and blinkered were City fans for not accepting his verdict.

When CAS rules against UEFA, instead of accepting the decision there were several articles published suggesting CAS should be dismantled as it wasn't fit for purpose - which had not been mentioned at all before. In fact several expert journalists drafted in to talk about it had pointed out it's almost impossible for a ruling body or organisation like UEFA to lose at CAS, and they have an incredible winning record in the 90%'s.

But forget all that - if they arrived at a different verdict, it must be the CAS that's wrong, not us journalists.

I still very clearly remember a Guardian Football Weekly where Jonathan Liew called Soriano a liar intent on just muddying waters to undermine the institution of UEFA when he said City believed when the case was put before a proper, independent court they'd be cleared and the punishment walked back. He's never retracted it.

Matthew Syed has not given the apology he promised if City's ban was overturned either, has he?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

We have a couple of related parties and City agreed that the level of support wouldn't increase again accepted by UEFA

Sorry to shout but WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RELATED PARTIES SPONSORING US!

If we did, it'd be noted in the accounts. And it isn't. We voluntarily agreed to limit a couple of Abu Dhabi sponsorships for the purposes of the 2014 Settlement but we never accepted, and still don't, that these two sponsors were related parties.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I suspect Newcastle will fight this in the courts. And most likely win. A football club is a private business, it joins the league structure on a contractual basis and the league then sets 'rules' that they all agree to abide by. But you cant just make up any rule - normal competition laws apply designed to stop cartels forming. This move if permanent is wide open to be challenged in court.

City should sit back and let Newcastle take this on.

In any event you can't stop the tide. Newcastle will find a way to get money into the club and over time it will start to show in the quality of football on the pitch. The same way the Glazers found ways to take money out of the rags. With their crumbling stadium and rubbish but expensive squad they will be very worried - these are desperate times for them.

 

[hihosilva]

This has to be unlawful. I can see the Court of Arbitration getting involved in this.

 

[ancoats]

Etihad are not a related party and this has been accepted by UEFA City's auditors and CAS Unfortunately the idiots in the media fail to understand We have a couple of related parties and City agreed that the level of support wouldn't increase again accepted by UEFA

people forget this ? etihad airways are not own by our owners and the media are just shit spreading again
this new rule will not stop etihad airways sponsoring manchester city again for another 10 years if they want

i said last week the after the party at newcastle you will wake up and smell the coffee and the so called elite clubs will be all over you like a rash. newcastle are not a stable club to build on right now they need to stay in the premier league first and then build the foundations and then you will be ok

manchester city made them so called elite clubs closed the book on anything like this in the future
they (elite clubs) will stop anything newcastle think of doing from day one and funny enough its happened within a week after the international break.

manchester city owners did the damage to the so called elite before they could stop us winning the premier league and playing in the champions league. we built a foundation that worked both on and off the field of play.
by the time any FFP rules could be setup by the so called elite manchester city was up and running and away

 

[ancoats]

I suspect Newcastle will fight this in the courts. And most likely win. A football club is a private business, it joins the league structure on a contractual basis and the league then sets 'rules' that they all agree to abide by. But you cant just make up any rule - normal competition laws apply designed to stop cartels forming. This move if permanent is wide open to be challenged in court.

City should sit back and let Newcastle take this on.

In any event you can't stop the tide. Newcastle will find a way to get money into the club and over time it will start to show in the quality of football on the pitch. The same way the Glazers found ways to take money out of the rags. With their crumbling stadium and rubbish but expensive squad they will be very worried - these are desperate times for them.

its football and the premier league ? you have a vote on this rule ? its law abiding because its a vote that was 18 to 1 in favour. newcastle will not take anybody on in court because of the time scale and they could be in league 1 by the time it comes up

 

[ancoats]

This has to be unlawful. I can see the Court of Arbitration getting involved in this.

good luck with that newcastle you could be in league 1 by the time you get a hearing

 

[feelymcfeel]

But forget all that - if they arrived at a different verdict, it must be the CAS that's wrong, not us journalists.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I suspect Newcastle will fight this in the courts. And most likely win. A football club is a private business, it joins the league structure on a contractual basis and the league then sets 'rules' that they all agree to abide by. But you cant just make up any rule - normal competition laws apply designed to stop cartels forming. This move if permanent is wide open to be challenged in court.

City should sit back and let Newcastle take this on.

In any event you can't stop the tide. Newcastle will find a way to get money into the club and over time it will start to show in the quality of football on the pitch. The same way the Glazers found ways to take money out of the rags. With their crumbling stadium and rubbish but expensive squad they will be very worried - these are desperate times for them.

These other clubs shouldn't forget how ruthless the Saudis are and how litigious they are likely to be. The PL backed down on the sale, this will also go nowhere.

And if they try the ESL trick, don't be surprised to see a new CL with sponsorship twice that of the ESL, and ESL players banned by FIFA. They are fucking the wrong arseholes here.