City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Chelsea are as successful as City. They probably have similar sized match-day revenue. Why have they built up such historic debts to their owner and yet City have not? I believe Chelsea's transfer actvity is quite savvy too. Their broadcasting income must be similar to City so that leaves Corporate income. Is that where they underperform?
 
Chelsea are as successful as City. They probably have similar sized match-day revenue. Why have they built up such historic debts to their owner and yet City have not? I believe Chelsea's transfer actvity is quite savvy too. Their broadcasting income must be similar to City so that leaves Corporate income. Is that where they underperform?

More sponsors and don’t we get paid of each club we own or owe a % of intellectual scouting and other things a can’t remember.
 
Chelsea are as successful as City. They probably have similar sized match-day revenue. Why have they built up such historic debts to their owner and yet City have not? I believe Chelsea's transfer actvity is quite savvy too. Their broadcasting income must be similar to City so that leaves Corporate income. Is that where they underperform?
A good point Marvin. Plenty of Chelsea data on line if you want to analyse it.
 
Sorry if this has already been posted(probably has) but I want to make sure nobody has missed this one because I did. Pleasantly surprised with the balance, even going back to the start of the PL, discussing United's rise and the broadcast revenue splits. The replies are gold, Tifo are on the payroll now according to some militant anti-city crusaders.

 
Quite right. FFP is just based on income from operations, so match day, TV/prize money and all commercial income. Any loans, cash injections or other financing (eg selling shares) goes into the balance sheet.
Ok, I understand that, if owners loans are zero interest and no debt accrued why didn’t our owners just inject a soft loan and avoid the shit storm we endured over FFP?

Surely just as sponsorship deals are commercially correlated, loans have to be evaluated to ensure a market percentage interest is applied to debt.

Based on the Rags commercial debt Chelsea should be evaluated at around 150m per year in interest payments.
 
Sorry if this has already been posted(probably has) but I want to make sure nobody has missed this one because I did. Pleasantly surprised with the balance, even going back to the start of the PL, discussing United's rise and the broadcast revenue splits. The replies are gold, Tifo are on the payroll now according to some militant anti-city crusaders.


Yes, it's a decent basic run down. I have not seen the responses but the suggestion that anything that comes under the flag of the Athletic is on City's payroll is laughable. Their City correspondent is simple Simon.
 
Ok, I understand that, if owners loans are zero interest and no debt accrued why didn’t our owners just inject a soft loan and avoid the shit storm we endured over FFP?

Surely just as sponsorship deals are commercially correlated, loans have to be evaluated to ensure a market percentage interest is applied to debt.

Based on the Rags commercial debt Chelsea should be evaluated at around 150m per year in interest payments.
Our owners think long term. So a swop of debt for equity gave them the ability to manoever the move into CFG with potential to sell shares in the group. So, no soft loan. Whether that would have saved us from attacks by the American red shirts, I doubt. At least one of them has a real problem with Muslim arabs; the owner of Liverpool calls Khaldoon "the terrorist." "Muslims are the enemy" as one US sports tycoon said to his son.
 

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