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[jrb]

F*** off Gill!

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However, it's more tban obvious what Gill is getting at.

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a  now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the int......for the full story register now for free or login below...

<br /><br />-- Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:00 am --<br /><br />F*** off Gill!

Taken from Business Desk North West. Today.

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However, it's more tban obvious what Gill is getting at.

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a  now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the int......for the full story register now for free or login below...[/auote]

 

[aguero93:20]

F*** off Gill!

Taken from Business Desk North West. Today.

Can't log in due to being at work, so can't post the full article.

However, it's more tban obvious what Gill is getting at.

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a  now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the int......for the full story register now for free or login below...

-- Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:00 am --

F*** off Gill!

Taken from Business Desk North West. Today.

Can't log in due to being at work, so can't post the full article.

However, it's more tban obvious what Gill is getting at.

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a  now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the int......for the full story register now for free or login below...[/auote]

well at least he'll want to get the red dippers as well. :)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Fully agree gdm.

Knew you would ;-)

unsurprisingly I remain deeply anxious

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

I think it's fair to say he's provided one or two talking points for the denizens of Bluemoon......

 

[Blue Tooth]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

I think it's fair to say he's provided one or two talking points for the denizens of Bluemoon......

From the horses mouth as it were,

" He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

That's that old chestnut put to bed then.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

I think it's fair to say he's provided one or two talking points for the denizens of Bluemoon......

As you once said mate
He will do anything in his power to stop us in our tracks..

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

I think it's fair to say he's provided one or two talking points for the denizens of Bluemoon......

As you once said mate
He will do anything in his power to stop us in our tracks..

Regrettably that power is a little more far-reaching these days.

Although still not far reaching enough methinks.

 

[blueinsa]

The fucking rag shithouse hasn't even got the balls to come out and name us and the UAE.

Go on Gill, be the man so we can all laugh a little more at you as you are ripped a new one.

 

[aguero93:20]

I think it's fair to say he's provided one or two talking points for the denizens of Bluemoon......

As you once said mate
He will do anything in his power to stop us in our tracks..

Regrettably that power is a little more far-reaching these days.

Although still not far reaching enough methinks.

No it's not, Premier League FFP only came in this year (when we should break even) and Gill, just like UEFA is restricted by the same IAS and GAAP rules with regards to RPTs (as far as I know). Plus no court of appeal will do anything other with the premise that Gill is fair and unbiased then laugh it out of court.
Plus we've undoubtably got better legal representation.
So fuck him, he's still a small fish in a big pond looking enviously at the sharks.

 

[Chris in London]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

Translation: "when we drew up the FFP rules we used the generally accepted definition of related party transactions in use across every major economy in the western world.

Then somebody told us it didn't cover deals like the Etihad deal so we are basically going to make it up as we go along."

 

[Blue Mist]

Two points:
1) Gill doesn't even try and hide his bias, openly talking about clubs who have 'breached' FFP and are owned by countries, whilst praising the Rags. I don't expect anything but the worst attempt to derail us from him.
2) Liverpool may not be assessed this season but they will next and according to the Telegraph they simply cannot fill the huge financial deficit ... but just watch the rules get bent for the media darlings like it was when they won the European Cup but missed out on top four.

Bastards the lot of 'em.

 

[toffee balls]

Try not to get too angry over the coming weeks because we all know it is coming.

It was always going to be like this and the premature collapse of the Rag empire will up the anti.
Expect this to pick up more momentum over the coming days and weeks and it will obviously kick up a notch as soon as Gills related party the rags can no longer qualify for Europe.

Battle down the hatches , expect lots more negativity bordering institutional racism and above all , let the club get on with it.

We are at the beginning of our rise to the very top.
The football side of the operation is well upto speed but

EUFA / FIFA politics is an entirely different ball game.

"Fuck em all"

 

[aguero93:20]

Two points:
1) Gill doesn't even try and hide his bias, openly talking about clubs who have 'breached' FFP and are owned by countries, whilst praising the Rags. I don't expect anything but the worst attempt to derail us from him.
2) Liverpool may not be assessed this season but they will next and according to the Telegraph they simply cannot fill the huge financial deficit ... but just watch the rules get bent for the media darlings like it was when they won the European Cup but missed out on top four.

Bastards the lot of 'em.

He's just giving us ammo if he does try to do anything, I hope he keeps going.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's Sheikh Mansour's name on the deeds, and that's all that matters.

Gill can infer all he wants with regards countries now owning football clubs etc.

It was a private purchase, done well before the wheels started turning at UEFA.

Nothing can be disputed as to related parties, because they cannot prove where the real power behind the throne is.

Mansour is a man of his own independent means.

Paris have the problem with regards a country controlling a club, as QSI is a state vehicle for investments.

Incidentally, as there is no related party case to answer, am I correct in my understanding that Etihad can pretty much pay us what they want on an annual basis?

The £40m a year for everything is cheap in comparison to some of the stand alone deals.

No reference was made of acknowledging FFPR in our recent accounts, that tells me we have our guns loaded already should needs be.

No irony from Gill he is speaking as a lunch where Odgers are picking up the tab - one of our biggest relationships.

 

[Dribble]

Ex-United chief Gill's Financial Fair Play warning

6th March 2014

FORMER Manchester United chief executive David Gill has warned that clubs breaching financial fair play rules will come under close scrutiny in the coming months.

Mr Gill, who left Old Trafford after 16 years as finance director and latterly CEO, is now a now a key figure within European football's governing body, UEFA, and was speaking to business leaders at a dinner in Manchester organised by accountancy firm PwC and recruitment firm Odgers Berndtson.

He said the new Financial Fair Play rules were designed to protect the integrity of European and domestic competitions and are crucial to the long-term interests of football.

Without explicitly naming United's nearest rivals Manchester City - which has been transformed over the last five years by the near £1bn investment of Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour - Mr Gill said: "Tough investigations will be taking place over the next couple of months.

"In some cases we're not talking about rich men owning clubs, but countries, and there will be work to do around related party transactions".

This latter point is particularly pertinent to Manchester City, given its commercial relationship with Abu Dhabi owned, or related companies, including the Abu Dhabi Tourist Board and major club sponsor Etihad Airlines.

During his speech he paid tribute to his "friend" Sir Alex Ferguson, but laughed-off the Scot's recent claim that he had told Gill to demand £150m from Real Madrid for star player Cristiano Ronaldo, who was sold for £80m.

"He (Sir Alex) is a great man, but he's not always right." he said.

He said in terms of global profile and popularity Manchester United punches way above its weight, and at heart it is : "a small business based on an industrial estate two-and-a-half miles outside the UK's third-largest city."

He reiterated his support for the club's American owners the Glazer family, and said the club had been able to be run more effectively as a private business, rather than as a listed company, and the Glazers had "really added value" and overseen remarkable commercial growth of the business by "exploiting the brand on a global scale."

While discussing on the impact of the Bosman Ruling on football - which allows freedom of movement after contracts expire - and the impact on player wages, Mr Gill said United striker Wayne Rooney new contract is not worth the reported £300,000 per week.

"While it's not at that level, I think, it's fair to say the Rooney family will not be wondering where the next holiday is coming from," he added.

Journalists were asked not to report questions from the audience about Manchester United's current league position.


C**t of the highest order. How on earth can he be seen to be independent given his past affiliation to the Rags?

Un-fuckin-believable!!

TBF, his hatred for us is so transparent, I reckon the daft ****'s played right into our hands. We're not owned by a nation state but my a billionaire much like ManUre, we have no debt unlike ManUre and no players on £300,000 per week unlike ManUre!

Also why is Gill commenting on ManUre's affairs and speaking publicly with such authority on Granny Shagger's wage when I though he'd left the Rags?

UEFA impartiality? Thank you Gill, you've just confirmed all our suspicions. The fucking twisted berk should concentrate on football debt NOT legitimate private investment.

 

[Bozzie]

Well that was a remarkably well balanced and fair speech from the completely impartial former Chief Executive of Manchester United. Several CL clubs will be highly relieved to know that the administration of the somewhat controversial FFP Regulations rest in the safe hands of David Gill. Clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid and PSG will now be well aware that David Gills remit is far less to do with FFP in European clubs and far more to do with maintaining the power base of his former employers. Other clubs, like City, will probably adopt the stance of "bring it on you Rag ****", albeit, that may not be the exact wording of the press release from the PR Department at The Etihad stadium.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Other clubs, like City, will probably adopt the stance of "bring it on you Rag ****", albeit, that may not be the exact wording of the press release from the PR Department at The Etihad stadium.

It would be a good way for Vicky Kloss to instantly and permanently silence her critics amongst the City support. I think she should go for it.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's pretty frightening the legal resources our club would be able to call upon should they have to.

The legal profession will always come down to who has the deepest pockets and we could tie this up in red tape for the next decade, or until the money runs out at UEFA.

I don't think the biggest threat comes from UEFA, however.

I think that comes from the cartel of clubs who will simply threaten to walk away and form another version of the Champions League, outside of UEFA, who are now caught between a rock and a hard place.

Bayern, United, Arsenal and Liverpool would be at the forefront of this, with Chelsea, simply playing both ends until they decide which side the coin drops.

UEFA can cope without City and PSG, which is why, even if they don't want to, may have no option but to see us in court, to protect their very own existence.

 

[aguero93:20]

I don't think that's going to happen tolmie tbh. Any walkaway needs the support of the italian clubs, real madrid and a global sporting body or it won't work.